Wait, but they already launched it without Denuvo. So pirates can easily crack the launch version without it, and only paying customers need to deal with the antipiracy bullshit? Nice, they took a pro-piracy hyperbole and made it actually real.
DRM ONLY ever affects paying customers, ergo DRM is always unethical malware.
Also, let’s never forget how Ghostwire Tokyo had Denuvo patched IN over a year after release.
Eh, I only meant hyperbole in terms of antipiracy affecting the pirates that had to figure out how to crack it. As a broad gesture at the fact piracy (consumption) depends on piracy (effort) to work
I’m thinking this too… like what’s even the point of using denuvo if it’s not applied day one? The whole point is to delay piracy so they sell more copies during launch week (in theory), so waiting until after day one completely ruins that since you can just pirate the easily cracked launch version.
The point is that they purposefully left (or created) bugs in the day one version that are fixed in this patch after you install denuvo
It’s not the first time they’ve done something like that, they broke another assassins creed game and leaked it to get people to buy the real copy, this is no different
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/935316-assassins-creed-directors-cut-edition/43146901
It’s not a day one patch, but day-1 patch. The game will be released a few hours from now.
That’s the thing: paying consumers always pay the price for DRM by having to jump through any hoops.
There are no “hoops” here though?
Sounds like they added it after the review embargo ended but before the game releases to the public.
You’re right, according to Ubi the update on PC was ‘included in the 41.6 GB game files ahead of Oct 5’. It was a prerelease patch, not day 1.
Nice of Epic to start directly exploiting the lack of PC physical media around the same time people are talking about getting rid of disc drives on consoles.
So time for those reviewers to send their version.
😂 yeah if they want to get blacklisted and sued.
Reviewers get games prior to release day. So it may not be so likely that you can get a working game without the day 1 patch.
Ubisoft does the Ubisoft thing - nothing new under the sun.
Refund, refund, refund. The only single thing they will ever care about is the $.
Who the fuck downvoted this comment?
No one fucking cares. This isn’t Reddit.
Why, you going to fight them one by one, Jay and Silent Bob style?
I think anyone who reviewed it should publish a secondary videos explaining this.
This seems like it’s legitimately false advertising
Where is the false advertising?
None of the reviewers experienced the game with Denuvo. Reviews are a form of advertisement (good or bad)
That’s not how it works. Someone else reviewing your product isn’t advertising by you.
Providing a deceitful product for your reviewers before publication is kinda exactly that.
They’re not advertising anything.
The point is, the reviews represent a game that’s not the one being sold. Additionally, it’s reasonable to believe this was done on purpose. This should be simple to understand ?
Denuvo has an impact on performance for many games, so they artificially inflated the performance, and some people don’t buy games with Denuvo on principle, many reviewers will note that in their video.
That’s not false advertising by the developers/publisher.
Fuck off with your corporate shilling
At this point if you’re NOT waiting a year to play games you’re a fool and a moron.
Or, just don’t play UbiSoft or EA games. SEGA sometimes removes Denuvo after a time, so they’re sometimes good ib a waiting list.
Hardly just those companies releasing steaming piles of dogshit for idiots to pre-order and lap up the trash.
Yeah, at least if they’re not free-to-play. Publishers have shown time and time again that you can NOT trust them with your money. Only pay for something if you know exactly what you’re getting.
Patient gamer all the way! I recently played dying light 2. Fun game but a year after release and it’s still buggy as hell.
If Denuvo’s claim that their DRM has no negative performance impact were true, then why Ubisoft pull this shenanigan (adding Denuvo DRM just hours before release)? Ubisoft must’ve know their game run better without Denuvo so they want the reviewers to play the drmless version.
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Well, they’ve accidentally made a really easy workaround, then. Just download the day one depot and you can play without Denuvo.
True, but will also prevent you from getting any other updates or bug fixes. This is such a scummy action for Ubi to do, I wouldn’t it put it past em to pair this with some sort of game bricking… “glitch” that needs a patch.
On another note this will make for an easy comparison of Denuvo ridden game vs Denuvo removed. The Day 1 Patch bringing some Fixes and Performance gains would muddy the results a bit but I think it’s still a good idea to have a test like that. If the rumors/speculation about Denuvos performance impact are true I doubt even a Day 1 Patch would manage to balance out the performance difference.
ELI5?
Denuvo is a very complex anti piracy system for games that is pretty controversial. There’s a lot of evidence that it affects performance and it forces games that wouldn’t otherwise need Internet to be activated online regularly.
It’s the kind of thing that a reviewer would mention and that some people would use in their buying decisions. Sneaking it in after launch is going to make some people pretty mad and I’d feel used as a reviewer.
Denuvo is like having to call your helicopter mom every other minute to make sure you still have the right to play.
If the call fails, or she doesn’t pickup, or if you can’t call for any reason (maybe your in the woods and have no service) you’re instantly teleported into a dark room and all your toys are gone because everyone assumes you’re a criminal now.Denuvo is always online DRM software, that usually results in performance issues (reduced frame rate, increased latency, stuttering, etc.).
In this case it appears Ubisoft
avoidedtried to skirt the potential bad press from performance issues by delaying the inclusion of denuvo until after people had bought the game/early reviews came out.I guess they did it since Denuvo is generally known to cause performance issues in games.
So, reviewers gave scores on the denuvo-less game, which would have better performance, thus better scores, then they patched denuvo into it, so that they will get their drm and any performance drops will not play a role in any low scores.
But I can’t understand why reviewers can’t update their review… maybe it’s expensive for major reviewers?
I’m sure some will, the result will still be as intended though: a higher Metacritic score
Denuvo bad.
In the (vain) quest to make people stop pirating, it goes so far (admittedly also comes the closest to “working”) that it starts causing significant side effects. It’s also apparently always online, which is a historical pet peeve for a lot of people: it doesn’t add any value to the game, but it does add a buttload of possible extra ways for the game to crash or become unavailable. With no benefit to you, the player, and not much you can do about it, other than playing the games of someone who’s not quite as much of a dick.
It’s simple. Stop buying crap products!
That’s the thing though - they deliberately made the product crappier after people already bought it.
Think this applies if Denuvo is included from the beginning, but it wasn’t here
Lesson is to make steps being even more patient and play backlogs and opt for older titles that are cheaper. Doesn’t even have to be super old. Could be just within a year. Very few games these days that are an absolute much play the moment it drops. Haven’t actually come across any of that caliber past decade, but maybe I’m too patient.
I’ve heard that Baldur’s Gate 3 was a massively successful launchday title, though it’s not my cup of coffee.
There are still good games around, just unfortunately not the majority of them
There were still a lot of bugs that they are still patching. But even on day 1 baldur’s gate 3 was amazing.
Baldur’s Gate 3 also was in Early Access for a few years so people had plenty of independent experiences to base their opinion on. The release content was more, true, but there were a lot of known factors.
Yeah but it’s an assassin’s screed game it was crap before denuvo.
Reviewers should subtract points from the rating of every new Ubisoft game, for the real potential of something like this happening after the review.
It was the same with lies of P… I think it’s becoming a trend and someone needs to stop it, it’s false advertising. None of the reviews are credible, they’re not reviewing the same game
Nah, they don’t need to stop this at all. This basically lets people pirate games all they want so long as the devs don’t intentionally throw in a game breaking bug on the review version.
I… but… that… that isn’t how this works…
You’re putting the cat outside after it already ate the canary.
Well I know what game I’m not buying. This should just fuel the pirate ships I’d think.
It’s Ubisoft, who would be surprised? Pirates get a better experience than paying customers and it’s been that way for over a decade
Offering a specific version of the product for reviewers to write about that buying customers won’t get? fry-im-shocked.gif