- cross-posted to:
- privacy@lemmy.ml
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- privacy@lemmy.ml
Ecosia adds “contractually forced” Microsoft Clarity tracking (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/clarity/setup-and-installation/about-clarity | privacy faq : https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/clarity/faq#privacy), which will record the behaviour of users on the website. Recording clics, size, and more.
They will also add an optional Google setting. Enabling the cookie will allow to get search results from Google, but also to get tracked by Google.
Optional Microsoft advertising tracking is still a thing, tho it may not be necessary if Bing can get a fingerprint and behaviour of the user in real time…
This may be the final flow for Ecosia for me. Unless somehow the Microsoft Clarity can be private… But I don’t think so.
aren’t they using bing also? (I never checked, and still not going to check right now… because I’m …)
I’m using duckduckgo but how would they avoid this if Microsoft make it mandatory by contract?
According to them DuckDuckGo largely sources Bing, however they also have their own crawler called DuckDuckBot.
https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/05/duckduckgo-microsoft-tracking-scripts/
They block the tracking.
company has announced it’s been able to amend terms with Microsoft, its search syndication partner, that had previously meant its mobile browsers and browser extensions were prevented from blocking advertising requests made by Microsoft scripts on third party sites.
Wonder how they were able to negotiate what even ecosia weren’t.
I’m guessing they have quite a bit more users and thus can negotiate better.
That doesn’t seem to mention Microsoft Clarity, other than it being on the list of domains that its ad blocker (not its search engine) blocks?
Clarity.ms is on the list of blocked domains, I believe these are also blocked on the search engine.
https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/privacy/no-tracking/
RIP
I use Ecosia for the environmental aspect, not the privacy, so I’m gonna stay with it.
Same, plus clearing all cookies when closing the browser. Still, combining search tterms and IP is giving me pause.
Ecosia doesn’t apply tracking cookies. And fingerprinting does not need cookies. It just needs to know what you are.
Device size, information, browser… And other shared info.
Keep up with the Duck.
DDG uses the same bullshit. Sorry.
Source? Per their privacy policy, they do not track you.
https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/privacy/no-tracking/
This was referred to the “mobile browsers and browser extensions” (that’s what the article literally says), not to their search engine.
Is there a reason people aren’t suggesting startpage as an alternative to ecosia or DuckDuckGo?
What I remember : Startpage has been bought by an advertising company. So who knows what they could do with it.
Yup, i’ve sent this link before:
https://restoreprivacy.com/startpage-system1-privacy-one-group/
For me that was reason enough to not use them anymore, but for a long time, i almost exclusively used it.
Mm I do think I remember the controversy around that. Such a bummer because their anonymous webpage viewing is such a cool feature
Startpage is very slow and chock full of ads now.
I just made the switch from duck duck go, because I read there was some sketchy shit going on as well… Can someone recommend me an alternative for both of them?
I believe the DDG “concerns” were overblown.
https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/05/duckduckgo-microsoft-tracking-scripts/
https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/privacy/no-tracking/Out of the loop, what’s the sketchy shit going on with 🦆🦆 go?
I’m trying out Kagi atm, but it’s not free. The alternative is basically “pick your poison”. I think any “free” service will inevitably end up in the same sketchy shit all companies large enough are drawn into.
Still not sure where I land at the end of the trial; the cost is really pushing the limit of what I could justify paying for online search.
I don’t want to spam but just wrote up a huge ass comment detailing several novel and open source search engines that don’t get talked about much. If anyone here would like to learn more about SearX, Marginalia Search, and YaCy feel free to check it out
Nice. Bookmarked to check out later 🏆
Oh man I just made the switch!
all the more reason to keep using ublock origin.
Not sure using Ecosia has any benefit if using ublock to block everything.
SearXNG has the answer(s)
Same, searxng is great.