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Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior Mozilla Firefox?
Firefox opening the gates for addons on mobile is some really good timing.
They really come in clutch with that upgrade. Some people are already drooling for that feature (including me)
Use nightly.
use iceraven
iceraven works on Android?
ye i use it
Actually, yes. Firefox is good but I hate the UI. Okay, Brave seems nice. Love the UI, sync feels slow, and why can I not move the top bar to the bottom on mobile??? Phones are BIG. Don’t make it harder for me to use your product. Okay, there is Vivaldi, king of customisability. Nice, but feels slow. Back to Firefox. Still hate UI. And now wanting a better new tab page. Proceed to discover Tabliss for a good new tab page, and Firefox-UI-Fix on github to give me a better UI on Firefox desktop. Wow, problems solved. I’m sticking to Firefox forever (unless I decide to switch to Librewolf where I can still implement all the same fixes as on Firefox).
Firefox UI is controlled by CSS
Just find a UI you like and add it in
Floorp is Firefox with Vivaldi-style tweaks. Part of it is what Firefox really should be right now.
If you’re a minimalist, I can vouch for Pulse Browser, with sidebar tabs (native to Pulse, similar to Edge) and Simple Tab Groups, it’s great.
Moved to Firefox a while ago, specifically because of Manifest V3.
The only issue I’ve found so far is that you can’t log in to PSN on it. Just locks the browser completely and you need to kill it in task manager. Apparently it’s to do with password saving.
Hmm, I’m using PSN from FF. Problem with am extension, maybe?
Apparently it’s to do with cloud password saving.
get brave exclusively for psn?
I’ll consider Firefox when they have extension support on iOS, like Orion does.
See, the fact they don’t is apples fault, their play store guidelines make it impossible for Firefox to add extensions
Nope. Orion does this today.
App Store requires all web access be rendered in safari
Any browser you get on IOS is Safari and so you are right that they could have extensions but it would be impossible for their old extensions to match up/everything has to be rewritten
Couldn’t have said it better myself, thank you
Good luck with that. All browsing on iOS is Safari, so likely all the FF extensions would need to be remade from scratch.
That’s Apple’s fault for not allowing other browser engine
Nope. Many Chromium forks already have very good inbuilt adblockers , which won’t be affected by the MV3 stuff. On top of that, one could also use system-wide blockers such as AdGuard and DNS-level blockers (which is not even a bad idea if you’re on Windows anyway).
You can continue to cope or you can upgrade to a real browser.
I already upgraded to Brave years ago. Thanks. And fuck Mozilla.
You mean Chromium Brave Edition?
Why you got beef with Mozi? They chill
Yeah, no. Too much disregard for the community and useless political crap, apart from hypocrisy on their fake anti-Google stance.
useless political crap
Meanwhile: Uses Brave
Such an ignorant and bad faith statement I won’t even bother to reply.
pOliTiCaL
Would you care to explain to the class?
They donate a lot to political campaigns that have nothing to do with technology or anything relevant. I use and love Firefox, but this is definitely questionable
https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-investigating-the-bizarre-finances-of-mozilla
Brave isn’t any better of an option with all the controversies they’ve had.
If anything, they’re worse.
- Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them. Forcing over people and companies into their system.
- They’re heavily in the blockchain ecosystem, with their own worthless crypto.
- They take from open source projects (uBlock, Chromium, etc), but threaten legal action when someone forks them.
- They install bloat/spyware on your Windows system (later claimed it was a mistake).
- Brave, and its CEO is right-wing, lobbying against things like same-sex marriage.
I could go on.
Don’t forget the worst most condescending people working for Brave. I actually had one of their people antagonize me on social media years ago for not liking their invasive homepage at the time.
And also don’t forget Gab forked out Brave to create Dissenter.
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Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them.
So like very other ad company.
Forcing over people and companies into their system.
[citation needed]
- The crypto stuff is opt-in.
- [citation needed] I’m talking about the legal action stuff. Fun fact, Gab made a Brave fork called Dissenter. Nothing happened to them.
- Yeah, Brave VPN is BS.
- About Brendan Eich, I can’t see nothing about his beliefs reflecting in his work. Looks like he kept them separated. Also he’s a co-founder of Mozilla. So if you’re not going to use Brave because of him. How can you use Firefox? About Brave lobbying against things like same-sex marriage. Will, [citation needed].
If you need Chromium browser. Just use ungoogled-chromium, Windows version.
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Man’s 3 poignant inquiries away from peddling Brave. Tread carefully folks.
Bravecels are all the same, maybe they get two extra shitcoins every time they shill for it.
Lmao you were right
System wide ad blockers can’t block a lot of ads, namely same-domain ads or those that are built into the html. Much rarer than the external page kind (DNS ones) thankfully.
Namely, Youtube ads
AFAIK, AdGuard can block same domain ads. I’m not talking about AdGuard DNS, I’m talking about AdGuard app/program.
Yeah surel, I’ll use the inadequate browser but fox the problems with system wide ad blockers, instead of just using a browser, that doesn’t steal my data and let’s me install addons that I want. Google is way out of bounds here imho.
Use whatever suits you. I’m just saying that people already using browsers with a built-in AdBlock aren’t going to switch, because they won’t even notice the MV3 stuff.
Aren’t all those ad blockers and distribution platforms too? Heard about ABP that sell ad space for example.
IIRC, ABP used to whiteliste some “acceptable” ads (non invasive, etc…). Frankly, it’s been literally ages since I have used it, so I don’t know how they behave right now. I was referring to AdGuard as a system-wide adblocker, though, which is a completely different story.
LOl @downvotes from delusional and desperate Mozilla’s shills
For how long?
As long as these browsers themselves exist. Inbuilt adblockers aren’t extension, are integral parts of the browsers, and don’t need to follow extensions’ rules.
I really wonder if this will make any people move from Chrome to Firefox at all because they can’t use their adblockers anymore. There are probably so few people that most of them already are on Firefox I guess.
Nope, then they will continue to whine about YouTube and Twitch spamming ads even though the solution already exists.
This ^ some people are weirdly hellbent against using Firefox for basically no reason.
Had a someone I know recently which between 3 different chromium browsers to find one where the adBlock still worked on Youtube, But would refuse Firefox for the pettiest of reasons from ‘I can’t sync logins with my google account’ to ‘That browsers for NERDS’
tbf, and I’m saying this as a Firefox user, some of the comments about Firefox here make me wanna just
The loudest parts of the userbase can change the perceptions of software to outsiders, very much like fandoms.
just use a uno reverse card on anyone who say firefox is for nerds
tell them if chrome didn’t exist they would be calling edge and opera users nerds
I already moved to firefox, this made me think about stop using google drive and gmail too.
Technically I would be fucked if google decided to just block my account and they have demonstrated they will do it if they feel like it
(the case in 2022 about someone sending picture of their own baby to the doctor and was automatically flagged for it. google blocked that persons account and didnt unblock it even though it was proven he did nothing wrong. The pictures werent even sent via gmail, i think, so google just scanned their private photos.)
I have separate account for youtube, but I worry in the future they might connect it to my main account and start threatening to ban it if i continue using adblock. Now i’m also kind of worried if google decides in the future that something is unacceptable, like making comments against corporations or something.
I for one can say I’m very on the fence whether I make the jump or not, because on the one hand I don’t want to deal with MV3, but on the other hand Vivaldi is absolutely unique and Firefox doesn’t even come close to replacing it in terms of features for me.
As a fellow Vivaldi user, you know what’ll really make you sad?
There was a plugin that offered practically-identical tiling functionality in Firefox (i.e., tab tiling within one window).
It still exists, but was broken when Firefox moved to manifest. Now it tries to replicate the behavior with individual windows instead, which feels awful to use.
There’s a Firefox fork called Floorp that purportedly has Vivaldi-like tiling, but after a week with it, I couldn’t figure out how to enable it. Plus, it’s in its early stages and some of the users are vocally anti-Vivaldi (more specifically, anti-Floorp-becoming-Vivaldi-on-Firefox) so who knows—all those features might get stripped off down the line anyway.
Yeah I tried Floorp awhile ago and it looked interesting, but very early development and jank as hell. It might be something to keep an eye on as long as they keep adding more stuff to it…
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Tab stacking, tab tiling, the sidebar with all my web panels, quick commands, the completely customizable UI… There’s so much.
What Vivaldi features do you feel are game changing? I’m not that familiar with it and would love to hear from someone who uses Vivaldi.
Aside from the completely customizable UI, I’d say tab stacking and tab tiling. Web panels are cool as well, you can have translators, calculators and whatnot in your sidebar for quick access that way. It also has a built-in RSS feed reader which is neat.
No because brave and Vivaldi exist. Also there is Adguard app for Android or software for windows (not DNS one) and then browser doesn’t matter.
Come on, Brave is owned by an ad company. They’re only acting like the good guys to get some users
brave is not owned by an ad company Startpage is 🐚
