• Count Regal Inkwell@pawb.social
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    8 months ago

    Finally: ClosedSubtitles

    EDIT: Also, MAN, a lot of straight up bootlicking in this thread. What the fuck kind of pirates are you? lmao

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    Jesus, reading comprehension is hard to come by eh? How have so many people struggled to actually read this?

    They aren’t requiring payment, nor are they requiring you to sign in or create an account.

    They are transitioning from an old API to a new one. The new API (and the site itself) is ad supported and rate limited; 5 downloads per day unauthenticated, double that for a free account, or ‘VIP’ accounts have higher limits and no ads.

    It’s not authenticated access only, nor is it paid access only.

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      “It’s not paid, you can pay by watching ads and get a laughable amount of downloads per day for free!”

      Sometimes you have to cycle through many subtitles to find the right one. They don’t even produce them.

      In the era of VPN, many users share the same IP too. You can reach the limit before downloading anything.

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        How many subs do you download at a time??
        Juat spread it out or cough up some cash … >_>

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          I’ve already explained the use-case. Spare me of your “witty” remarks with no value added.

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        “They don’t even produce them”

        Hosting ain’t free, son.

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        In the era of VPN, many users share the same IP too. You can reach the limit before downloading anything.

        Then create a free account and it’s no longer limited by ip and you get double the anonymous limit.

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          8 months ago

          There is no need to have an account for that. This is a purely artificial measure.

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      It doesn’t say any of that information about non-VIP accounts, go read it yourself, and the information you quoted about anonymous accounts is also wrong.

      edit: I won’t be receiving any replies from this commenter. If anyone wants to say I’m wrong, feel free to provide a screenshot from the blogpost proving it.

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        8 months ago

        Since you deleted the comment I replied to:

        There’s six big ass bold numbered paragraphs detailing the differences between the ‘VIP’ (paid) users and ‘non-VIP’ (free) users.

        There’s also a link to the REST API docs where the first thing it details is exactly how authentication is handled. Specifically: an application looking to interface with opensubtitles will have an api key embedded by its developer and without logging in further will have 5 free downloads/day, that can then be expanded by the end user logging in with their (free or VIP) account.

        That documentation lists anonymous accounts (not signed in as a specific user) as rated limited to 5/day. That doubles to 10 for signed in (but still free) users and grows further with VIP.

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    How… how could you possibly start trying to profit off of a major resource for accessibility to movies. That’s scummier than scummy. Fuck you OpenSubtitles, you’re the fucking Elon Musk and Steve Huffman of deaf people everywhere. Get absolutely fucked.

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      8 months ago

      I swear I read a thread here (on lemmy) recently that one of these subtitle sites was embedding ads in the subtitles. Now that takes things even further than scummier in my opinion, especially since subtitles are for availability.

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      Their website is still free and every legal way to watch movies already includes subtitles.

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        Oh, no harm done then, lets keep allowing every online resource to implement shitty money grabbing tactics

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          It sucks, sure. But it’s been free for a really long time, and it costs money to run a service.

          You can’t really expect that a service will serve an increasing amount of people free stuff forever.

          At least making people visit the site will encourage them to upload and help keep the service up.

          Btw, it’s not expensive and if you think it is. Just use some other service.

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            This unfortunately helps sets a precedent for what the internet is going to look like in the future. Even the most basic things will be behind a paywall.
            You cant even read a fucking news article from New York Times, who made 173.91 million dollars last year

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              News has never historically been free, only recently through the web and founded by ads.

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                  How much money do you think they would have made if they gave away all their content for free.

                  News is pretty expensive.

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            THEN ASK PEOPLE TO DONATE, how tone-deaf can you be about your own community?? What the fuck do they think Wikipedia is doing?
            I’ve found pirates & FOSS enthusiasts are FAR more likely to donate into something they use regularly and appreciate, this is a blatant slap in the face to those people.

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    8 months ago

    My wife is deaf, and I take this VERY fucking personally. This is predatory to an already (unfortunately) overlooked demographic of movie lovers, I will absolutely rally against this bullshit.

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      Accessibility features are already scarce and paywalling them seems to be a trend that’s going on, like how reddit closed it’s API so blind users couldn’t even use it anymore. The /r/blind subreddit needed non-blind mods because their native app doesn’t support accessibility.

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      Making a burner account isnt that hard and hardly a shittification in my books.
      Just a measure to ensure the free api access is correctly monetized which is a valid reason for a service to me.

      Would you work for free for your workplace without a compensation beyond a $5 bill and a pat on the back at times because your boss felt generous?

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        Opensubtitles does not create the subtitles, that’s done by the community, which is being monetised and sub authors get nothing out of it.

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          I agree, that that’s a bad part of it.

          But we come a bit full circle here:
          OpenSubs pays for the server and availability and service speed.
          I assume the speed they provide ain’t the cheapest server they could get their hands on.
          If the cost of a free/unauthenticated users and the server bill breaks even with the VIP payment (cant call it a donation imo) then they should have all the rights to limit free users.

          Now if they actively lock features, then I have no feelings for them.

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            Every service that disabled or limited the API has seen an increase in running costs, because people turn to scraping, which costs them more resources overall, and cannot be controlled by the site owners as easily.

            Let’s be honest, though, hosting text files with a search bar isn’t that much expensive to justify a response like this.

            It’s fine if they want to earn money, but then they should be upfront about it, and not making up stories about fluke running costs. I’d rather see a donation button.

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        Would you work for free for your workplace without a compensation beyond a $5 bill and a pat on the back at times because your boss felt generous?

        Misleading question. These kinds of communities are volunteer-fed, so you are basically asking me if I would work for free for a charity, which is the point. Things change notoriously when the boss then decides to monetize the entire thing for themself and not for you.

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    For whatever reason, the opensubtitles.com plugin for Kodi still doesn’t require login and still appears to download whatever I need.

    For now.

    edit: after checking their “support us” page, it appears it’s because of the “anonymous” tier, limited to 10 dls per day.

    Good enough for me.

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    See, I get when YouTube or some such are asking for some kind of payment, since transcoding and delivering all those large video files is expensive as fuck. Yet, Open subtitles delivers text. Fucking. Text. The rest is done for them for free by the users. No, folks. You ain’t getting any money.

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      This transition aims to pave the way for a more advanced and streamlined experience with the introduction of the new REST API on OpenSubtitles.com

      You didn’t even took the time to read the first lines

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    ha, i love how their reasoning tried to not point out the obvious: money

    upgrade to vip for a better user experience! (cuz we made the other one shitty on purpose cuz money)

    im not faulting them for charging a price for a service, just dont blow smoke up my ass for why youre doin it.

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      I’m actually faulting them for trying to make money off a crowdsourced service. They didn’t write the damn subtitles.