• nealoverbay@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Sync was my Reddit app of choice for over 5 years, and after 30 minutes on Sync for Lemmy, my brain is fully convinced I’m back on Reddit. Supposedly this is just a Public Beta, but the only bugs I’ve found so far are the fault of my Lemmy instance, not Sync.

    Sync for Lemmy should honestly just be the world’s default Lemmy app.

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    11 months ago

    It’s live for me. It appears that the paid version, “Sync Ultra”, requires a $2/month subscription, or $17/year. Seeing as lemmy APIs are free, I am confused why this is so expensive? o_0

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      11 months ago

      I mean it takes the developer time and effort to make the app, and he doesn’t benefit from any ad-revenue. It’s just paying for some nice features to support the work and effort of an awesome dev.

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      11 months ago

      To show some support!

      I mean, we’re already browsing ad free on here and many developers are making their apps in their free time. I get that this are expensive times, but if no-one would subscribe to such apps. There would be much less developers.

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        11 months ago

        So how would you feel about Lemmy instance hosters adding ads, harvesting user data to sell to third partiess, making paid subscription models to remove said ads they added and then charging for API access?

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          11 months ago

          We spoke about it with Ruud on Discord actually. He’s fine with it. Most people understand that nothing comes for free.

          Actually, it is even a nice gesture from the developer. The ones who cannot afford it can still use the app, without paying for it.

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            11 months ago

            I’m not suggesting that they should or even can be forced to change or that lemmy.world admins actually do anything differently.

            It’s also not about the cost or not being able to afford it. It is about principles and and the ad driven business model being antithetical to the goals of Lemmy. Being federated is one thing, but it is also about moving away from ads. I am fully in support of nearly any monetization of software other than ads and selling user data.

            Personally I just can’t understand the person who would agree that Reddit was being egregiously corporate minded and greedy to the point that they move to Lemmy and then be ok with adding ads were there previously were none. I’m definitely not going to be using it and I don’t even care that much despite my comments here if other people do. I just want to make this point known. I don’t want Lemmy to become Reddit all over again and I felt there was a bit of an honor system in place to not do things like that and it has already been broken.

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        11 months ago

        I completely agree with someone trying to make some money off of their app, but when it comes to Lemmy I can’t agree with injecting ads just so people have to pay to remove them. If it were just about the added bonus features then it would be a lot more acceptable.

        Lemmy doesn’t have ads and the instance hosters rely entirely on donations.

        I must say, this is pretty uncool of Sync for Lemmy developers.

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          11 months ago

          Moreover, it looks like it’s gathering user info to third parties like messages, device or other IDs? Hmm 🤔

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            If true that is a real deal breaker for me. The whole idea of Lemmy is to break away from exploitative data gathering from corporations. If they are data gathering to sell to third parties then what makes them any different than Reddit? 🫤

            If I had to guess most of that info is just to feed you ads, but that is already bad enough for me.

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              I think we can all make our own conclusions. I mean, don’t get me wrong, the app looks great. But I think the subscription model and the data gathering maybe isn’t the right approach in this instance, since we’re talking about a different culture in Lemmy. This is not Reddit. I’d be happy with a simple, straight app purchase with no bs data mining, thank you very much.

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              11 months ago

              LOL this is not how you gather data in a mobile app. There isn’t a GATHER_USER_DATA permission 🤣🤣🤣

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        11 months ago

        It is indeed beautifully designed. By far the best looking client I’ve seen yet.

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      Bruh, you can’t spare two whole dollars for something you’re going to be using every day? Like, I use Jerboa, which is free, but I still signed up for dessalines patreon to support their work.

      The future is either free to use, but put up with ads, or pay a meager amount to support the developers so ads arent required to sustain the product.

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        Bruh, you can’t spare two whole dollars for something you’re going to be using every day?

        Or, we can just like …buy it once…like most other software that isn’t tied to a first-party hosted service?

        The future is either free to use, but put up with ads, or pay a meager amount to support the developers so ads arent required to sustain the product.

        I’d like to unsubscribe from your vision of the future

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          I’m somewhat with you on this, but most software that’s updating its pricing or is new, is using a subscription model. 2$ really is fine I think, even less with the yearly thing. I’d still like to see a OTP

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          11 months ago

          There will be an In-App Purchase later on. Keep in mind this is a beta and not the full release. For the beta the option is ads or ultra. For the full release it will be ads, pro (one time purchase) or ultra (subscription).

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    Nice. Got it installed and walking through settings. Seems nice so far. Not sure about ultra pricing though…

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      11 months ago

      That’s what I’m saying! It might be technically excellent, but one of the reasons I went away from Reddit is also to escape the aggressive data collection

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    11 months ago

    Wow, this is very clean! I never used sync for Reddit so I didn’t understand all the hype but I get it now. I’m very impressed

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      11 months ago

      My world account has been having issues in general today so I tried my CA account first when I downloaded sync and it worked fine. Have you tried an account on another instance?

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    11 months ago

    I have to admit I’m totally soured.

    Serving ads is not cool, and specifically poisoning the Lemmy instance with all the problems of tying near permanent content to an ad ID is negligent.

    No you won’t convince me he had to to make a living, or do you not use wikipedia.

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    11 months ago

    HE SAID THAT THERE IS ALREADY A ONE-TIME PURCHASE SUPPORTED VERSION SUBMITTED TO PLAY STORE THAT WILL REMOVE THE ADS.

    Patience. Some people, man. Geez.

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    11 months ago

    I literally don’t mind ads on my feed, I just want to support the developer as much as possible even tho I’m broke.