It’s been said to death but at heart, I’ve always felt that when it comes to piracy, it’s a service issue, not a cost issue.
Except for you Adobe. That’s a cost issue.
Except for you Adobe. That’s a cost issue.
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I found out the other day that LibreOffice Draw has a full pdf editor built in.
I know adobe makes many more products, but boy do I like telling people they don’t have to pay for Acrobat!
Wow that’s old.
Frankly, as shitty is a lot of that stuff was, DVDs were like the last form of media distribution that I would actually call tolerable in terms of consumer friendliness. You still got a physical disk with the actual movie that was easy to rip and share, no internet required. If it weren’t for the quality limitations, I’d still collect them as the primary physical backup to my media server.
4k Blu Rays exist. Aside from the pain of having to get a special cracked drive to rip them they are my primary backup for my movie server.
You just made me realize I could probably do this myself with a library card
the only big shortcoming to DVDs was the region locking …
That’s why we had a market for region-free DVD players!
Some of these players even skipped the
unskippable
intros and always started at the main menu. The best thing for legit buyers and enthusiasts back in the day. And don’t forget the (S)VCD support and DivX/Xvid support. Good old times.
This fucking hurt to read… thank fuck for piracy
I don’t use piracy for convenience. I watch movies and series together with my girlfriend (in a remote way) and we haven’t found a way to watch together (Like Teleparty for Netflix or Disney Plus native “Watch Party”) the content without the remote partner watching it in 320p (using Plex “Watch together” functionality). It simply doesn’t work.
The issue with streaming companies is the exclusivity. I would happily pay for Netfix if I could watch Ted Lasso (= Apple+) and Halo (= Paramount+) on it.
But if you want access to original series you have to buy the platform. I pay around €45 total in VPNs, Seedboxes, Usenet indexers… per month. I would happily pay for Netfix if I had access to everything in the world for up to €50/month. But with netflix you get access to a shitty catalogue on only one device for €8/month… That’s not okay for me.
See they’re doing you a favor by not letting you waste your time on that garbage that is the Halo show. What a farce.
It’s not even worth pirating, lol
I’m still only using legit services right now. For us the biggest thing we miss is the ability to actually find something specific. They work “ok” for just choosing something to watch from the algorithm, and that’s only because we got like 4 services total. But if you want to watch a specific film? 9 times out of 10 it’s not on any of them.
Trust me. You do not want to watch Halo.
Ugh, there has not been a TV show that has disappointed me as much recently as “Halo” has… It’s a disgrace that it is even called Halo.
The disappointing thing is there were small tidbits of S1 where I said “Hey, if there was more of this then I’d be excited to for the next episode to air!” … But no.
I like to joke and say “My disappointment is immeasurable” but this was certainly a case where I actually meant it.
Streaming companies are lucky that not more people know about Stremio + Torrentio + Real Debrid. That combination is a game changer and allowed me to get rid of all streaming services.
So true! Killer combo, have it on my nvidia shield TV works perfect almost as good buffer time as the streaming services with the real-debrid service with no loss in quality, I do have vpn on it also just to be sure.
I use a VPN too, mostly so I don’t have to worry when I switch over to iptv. The VPN just stays on all the time
Yeah same, I got it on my Firestick and it works like a charme! Got my vpn on the Firestick active as well and I could not be happier!
Shhh… but for real. I don’t even bother switching over to my payed paid subscription apps anymore.
The fact that it’s all in one is amazing. I don’t have to manage 5 different libraries.
This sounds interesting. I even have a Real-Debrid account but don’t know anything about those other two things. Guess I’ll be doing some researching tonight.
This is a guide that someone on Reddit wrote and it helped me a lot. It looks complicated with the first glance, but when you do the steps it takes less than 15 minutes. I changed the order of the original slightly and added a few infos to make it easier:
"Guide installing Stremio with Torrentio and Real Debird on your desktop.
Stremio
Go to https://www.stremio.com/ Download the relevant client for your platform (Windows/Mac/Linux) Open Stremio and sign up with email or facebook
Real Debird
Go to https://real-debrid.com/ Sign up Go to Premium Offers ($3 for one month, $16 for 6 months) Choose a package and subscribe
Torrentio
Go to https://torrentio.strem.fun/configure Choose your options for providers, quality, foreign language etc You can now choose to install Torrentio without a Debid Provider. Personally I use Real Debrid to connect directly to a server vs having my IP shared in peer to peer and to speed up performance. Torrentio has a slot for a possible API key (the Real Debrid key) To install with Real Debrid follow the next steps: Go to the API key with this link: https://real-debrid.com/apitoken Copy the API Key and go back to Torrentio and paste it under RealDebird API Key Install
Stremio with Torrentio installed
Check the addon installed correctly Click the puzzle piece up on the top right that says ‘Show All Addons’ Click My Addons and scroll until you see Torrentio Test stream a movie or TV show Go to Discover Click on a Movie or TV show and click ‘Show’ You should now see [RB+] Torrentio - Quality Enjoy streaming"
If I buy one of those Android TV boxes off Amazon, can I install all this stuff on it?
I think it depends which one you take, how open they are for external software. But with Firesticks or cubes you can do 100%. With others it might be worth googling beforehand, if Stremio can be installed on that specific tv box you choose. On those boxes you just need Stremio as an app. The app on your box then syncs with the settings and addons you have in the desktop version, so no hassle.
I found out the hard way those boxes have an expiration date. The manufacturers don’t really bother to get the custom boards updated to newer versions of android, so its quite a headache to keep them operational. Theres forums that do custom firmware for them, but ymmv depending on what box you get.
Yeah, for safety and convence, the best way is still casting from a computer.
I have bought two of them that have both been rendered useless due to lack of updates.
Can you also use alldebrid with this?
It’s very easy to set up.
What are the pros/cons of this vs a Plex setup?
I think local storage and access to hardware. Stremio rewuires little storage and uptime for 1 user vs. a computer being on and storing the media to push to different devices.
Well what a fun rabbit hole you sent me into. Seriously though thanks, now I need to figure out the best way to make it show up on my samsung tv (no android, samsung os or whatever it runs) otherwise it wont be adopted by my girlfriend …
The easiest would probably getting a FireStick and just putting stremio as an app there. So your girlfriend can always go to the same place and find all of her shows/movies in great quality in one spot.
Going with a cheap Xiaomi Mi TV Gen 2 box. (Android TV) Costs about 40$ which with a year of Real Debrid still costs less than a Year of Netflix payments.
I am in the same boat. I managed to sideload jellyfin on my samsung but stremio seems a whole different cup of tea
It’s weird that we have “capitalism” and there are people, who clearly have desire for a drm-free content. Hell, we even have a gog, where you can buy drm free games. Yet the market does not want to provide legal option to obtain films/shows that are not locked into the service.
And even with the gog there are still many games that are impossible to get drm-free in a “good” way. Not to mention emulation where things get kinda grey, depending on the system you are emulating
It is the same for eBooks imo. There are some sources of DRM free eBooks, but they don’t tend to have the popular books. I’m always buying on kindle, because it is so laughably easy to circumvent their DRM as long as one has a kindle serial number attached to their account.
It’s a little bit embarassing to admit, but I never purchased eBooks at all. Only “legal” copies I have are in the form of paper books. One interesting thing, that just struck me, is that my SO the other day purchased one of the books in the form of eBook on one of the “local” online book stores. And from what they told me it’s completely DRM free, even though it’s something that was written by a foreign writer. From what I know this marketplace does not have every book in the digital format nor it is certain that all of the digital copies are DRM free there. But my guess is that some regional marketplaces might have some legal DRM free content, just not being vocal about this
It’s why I pay for Spotify, convenience and pretty much everything in one place. For TV/Movies it’s Plex and the high seas.
I pay for music, videogames, software… but not movies and shows. I wonder what those do differently
Check out Plexamp when you want to start an mp3/flax collection. :)
My game changer was going to bflix.gg and downloading the android app from there (OnStream).
Every episode of anything can be streamed! If I get problems I can download an episode str8 on my phone. I use xcast to then chromecast it directly on my tv.
For anime, I go to 9anime.
LITERALLY FREE
Okay, this bflix thing is amazing. How is it legal?
It ain’t legal but all these streaming services and their greed shouldn’t be legal either
How does it compare to paying someone for a plex server?
Because you don’t pay for anything. You basically store on your phone and cast to tv there. On laptop the website streams. On phone itself you’re streaming.
Just make a Plex server. Easy. Only thing I pay for is a VPN. Can download and watch whatever I want. Build my own library. I do need to upgrade the PC though, it’s a pretty shitty box that I put it on.
Okay, this bflix thing is amazing. How is it legal? How do they pay for it?
I pay for Amazon Prime, but still get less buffer time by streaming torrents with Stremio, which also never fails to remember where I left a movie at (even if I change the torrent source, which is crazy)
Amazon video is an absolute trash heap. Worlds behind even other streaming services.
One day piracy will catch up and everyone will be trading episodes of family guy, just like they used to with scanned disk and vhs cassets.
With Sonarr/Radarr and Jellyfin, that convenience has effectively been trumped. I don’t know how they can compete
Can I make that work on Android TV
Edit: went to read up a bit, it circles back to getting into indexers/private trackers, which is where I usually give up. I’ve tried to get going on torrentleech from when I got an invite way back, but when I couldn’t get ratio I gave up, I just don’t have time for this kind of stuff… Any solutions where private trackers aren’t required to get quality content? I care about getting 4k/Atmos etc.
Check out usenet. It takes a bit of money and research but its much more reliable than torrents seem to be. You will need an indexer and a provider. Good luck.
I’ve found almost no movies that have a 4k version I haven’t been able to get through the few most popular public trackers (133x, bitsearch etc). Atmos can be trickier, but I’ve consistently been able to find them. Dolby vision has almost always been available when applicable.
After reading around this thread, I think I’m going to give that stremio+torrentio setup a go, add some public trackers and then maybe pay for that real debrid thing. I’m excited.
I can’t imagine any streaming service ever being more convenient.
I got no problem with streaming services competing and putting exclusive content on platform. What do I have problem with is them backing off from the things they advertised as when they were starting. Netflix literally rose in populating with ads saying “love is sharing the password” and other bullshit. Premium accounts were more expensive just so you can share your password with others. Nowadays they say it’s no longer possible and you have to pay extra.
I recently found out that it’s possible. The password restriction doesn’t apply when accessing netflix from a computer browser. The restriction notification only (for now) pops up when trying to watch Netflix through an app (e.g., Roku Netflix). I’ll just cast netflix from my laptop to TV if I want a big screen. Not saying this is ideal, but it’s a workaround.
Fmovies is more convenient than many streaming services though
This reminds me of the meme subreddit called r/Piracy. That was quick.
I’m so glad to see people other than me annoyed by this.
I pay more for my personal setup each month than I would have to pay for all streaming sites combined.
Yet it’s the ease of having Arr’s and a personal server with almost zero limits to stream any content I want.
My setup includes :- Dedicated Server Usenet Indexers and Private Trackers
The only time I wouldn’t find a movie or show I want would be a really old obscure media which doesn’t seem to exist anywhere.
Everything else is grabbed from both via my Arr’s and life is chill.
I pay 0 and get everything I want streamed with 0 limits to my tv 😂 wtf why pay for all that bs💀
Because it is fun running it and and be a bit more independent.
Dropped Netflix and got a Plex share with tens of thousands of movies and TV shows. Costs less than their 4K plan for several streams. Now they’re doing the “you can’t login in more than one location” bullshit? Back to sailing the high seas for me and hopefully many others
Same, we have a nice little community on discord and everyone suggest movies and tv series which get added right away most of the time from the many, active uploaders. It’s great and feels better than these faceless streaming services where you get shoved stuff down your throat you probably never want to watch anyway…
Why should I ever switch back at this point? Let’s hope stuff like this keeps running under the radar and never gets too public.