• naught@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    Life imprisonment is cheaper (in the US) for the taxpayer than execution. Morally, I think the death penalty does not have a leg to stand on. Even in the most egregious cases, who truly has the right to end a life? Can any justice system be 100% accurate? If there is even a slim chance that an innocent could be murdered by the state, the state should not murder. It’s valid to have a visceral reaction to horrific crimes like this, but to advocate for murdering even of a guilty party just doesn’t mesh with at least my ethics

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      10 months ago

      Why do we kill people to show that killing people is wrong? -“Foolish Notion” Holly Near

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        So, it’s not wrong to lock people in a cage?

        Lol. The ‘logic’ of the anti-death penalty crowd never ceases to astound me.

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          Locking people in a cage as a consequence of their misdeeds is different than the state killing to prove killing people is wrong and immoral.

          Take a minute to actually educate yourself about how incredibly badly we handle the death penalty. I have met too many men who were 100% innocent if their crime who got put on death row because of incompetence by investigators or prosecution to support it.

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            Lol. You don’t understand.

            You’re trying to say that “killing people is bad, therefore we shouldn’t kill as a punishment.”

            I’m trying to say that “locking people up is bad, therefore we shouldn’t lock people up as a punishment.”

            Stop moving the goalposts. Stop saying one punishment is ‘better than another’ while trying to say hurting someone is bad.

            If you, as an free person lock someone up, you’re in the wrong. Just as if you, as free person kill someone, it is bad.

            Stop. You’re not fooling anyone but yourself and who wants to be fooled. Some people need to die.

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              10 months ago

              No one moved the goalposts before this. You provided a false equivalence and are now attempting to move the goalposts.

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                10 months ago

                Wait, what? Did you even read what I said?

                Please say something of substance, I beg of you.

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                  10 months ago

                  I did read what you wrote and that is why I wrote what I did.

                  Locking people up is a false equivalence with execution.

                  You are now attempting to move the goalposts now.

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      It doesn’t need to be more expensive to execute someone than to house them.