Maybe they should talk to their employers about being forced to act like corporate mouthpieces. Or refuse. But if a bootlicker wants to lick boot, give em a taste.
Edit: My bad, I forgot you Americans don’t have workers rights. You get what you vote for.
Yes, plenty, none where I’ve accepted being a corporate shill and lying to the customers. You act like people didn’t agree to do the job they’re doing.
You misspelled your username too. Corporate Cuck.
Edit: My bad, I forgot you Americans don’t have workers rights. You get what you vote for.
I hope you’re not actually as rude to retail workers, waitstaff, and other members of the service industry as your comments make you seem like you’d be
But if someone is going to act like a braindead mouthpiece for a corporation then I will tell them why they’re wrong.
I never said be mean to staff, or rude. And you can’t point out where I have because it didn’t happen. You can still tell staff that insist on telling you that regulators are the cause of e-waste to inform themselves of their corporations decisions and how they sound parroting lies.
“I’m not rude to anyone who isn’t rude first… but I consider people just doing their jobs as directed by their bosses, in a way I personally dislike, to be rude, so it’s totally fine for me to be rude to them” is a summary of your stance.
Sure, you could disingenuously misinterpret it that way. Or you could not poorly paraphrase what I said in a manner that assumes ill intent, that’s always a choice.
I said don’t be rude like 3 times in that comment, what part of that did you miss?
Do you need an example of how to behave politely while disagreeing with people because you don’t know how it’s possible without being rude?
Are you saying you lack the cognizance of how to be polite? It feels like that’s what you’re saying.
Do you have any idea how many people are NOT going to be aware of the change and, if the sales people don’t tell them, it’s going to be a steady stream of Karen after Karen in the store. The general public doesn’t follow the tech news like this. Most of them aren’t going to be aware they’ll need a new cable if they need more than what’s in the box.
It’s not about the change, apple is specifically trying to get their staff to tell people that their old cables are useless e-waste, not to inform them they need new cables, but to disingenuously convince the public that regulators are the cause for the e-waste.
Apple developed lightning. It had the same transfer rate as USB 2.0 which had been out for over a decade. It wasn’t about being “stubborn”, it was about being proprietary.
That’s a fair point. Apple has been known to do that in the past with FireWire.
But I guess on the issue of whether or not — at the time, two years before usb-c was readily available — apple should have used usb-c or lightning (the thing they helped make), you would assume they would go with lightning over waiting until an unknown amount of time for another plug to be available.
When I say they were stubborn to change from that, they were/are simply stubborn to change from that. I wish they would have pulled the bandaid off when they switched to usb-c on iPad.
Though, that said, barring speed/power, I do actually think the lightning connector is a superior design. It’s simpler, and there’s nothing to break inside the port on the phone/device. I wish usb-c was physically the same or similar.
I still have to disagree. There was no reason for them to develop lightning in the first place. It has 0 advantages over technology already available at the time, and their adapters use the technology they’re trying to upsell anyways- USB.
Edit: I wish I could find a conclusive source for lightning vs micro-usb charging speed in 2012, it has proven difficult. This article suggests an extremely negligible 0.3A difference that effectively did nothing because all phone batteries at the time had a 1A charging maximum https://www.gearmo.com/things-to-know-about-lightning-cables/
Apple helped develop USB-C too as they are members of the consortium. No (non-self-serving) reason why they couldn’t have delayed the swap an additional year or two back then.
Buyers should be sure to let apple store staff know Apple made the choice to use lightning instead of usb-c because they are proprietary assholes.
Or leave Apple Store staff alone because they had nothing to do with any of that?
Maybe they should talk to their employers about being forced to act like corporate mouthpieces. Or refuse. But if a bootlicker wants to lick boot, give em a taste.
Edit: My bad, I forgot you Americans don’t have workers rights. You get what you vote for.
Do you think Apple store employees have the CEOs phone number on autodial?
You’re complaining to the girl at checkout about prices like she has anything to do with it.
She has a boss doesn’t she? You act like there isn’t a chain of command like she can’t go to her manager and refuse to be a corporate shill.
Have you ever had a job before?
There’s no way you’re this out of touch with how anything works.
You misspelled your username, Karen.
Yes, plenty, none where I’ve accepted being a corporate shill and lying to the customers. You act like people didn’t agree to do the job they’re doing.
You misspelled your username too. Corporate Cuck.
Edit: My bad, I forgot you Americans don’t have workers rights. You get what you vote for.
Why didn’t you stomp into the CEOs office and demand change? You seem to think that anyone in any company can do that, so why didn’t you?
Why are you calling everyone here something that you’re obviously feeling ashamed to be?
Is your reading comprehension really this bad? No wonder you’re confused, you’re actually illiterate.
I hope you’re not actually as rude to retail workers, waitstaff, and other members of the service industry as your comments make you seem like you’d be
I’m not rude to anybody who isn’t rude first.
But if someone is going to act like a braindead mouthpiece for a corporation then I will tell them why they’re wrong.
I never said be mean to staff, or rude. And you can’t point out where I have because it didn’t happen. You can still tell staff that insist on telling you that regulators are the cause of e-waste to inform themselves of their corporations decisions and how they sound parroting lies.
“I’m not rude to anyone who isn’t rude first… but I consider people just doing their jobs as directed by their bosses, in a way I personally dislike, to be rude, so it’s totally fine for me to be rude to them” is a summary of your stance.
Sure, you could disingenuously misinterpret it that way. Or you could not poorly paraphrase what I said in a manner that assumes ill intent, that’s always a choice.
I said don’t be rude like 3 times in that comment, what part of that did you miss?
Do you need an example of how to behave politely while disagreeing with people because you don’t know how it’s possible without being rude?
Are you saying you lack the cognizance of how to be polite? It feels like that’s what you’re saying.
🚨🚨KAREN ALERT🚨🚨
If self awareness was a disease you’d be the healthiest person alive.
Do you have any idea how many people are NOT going to be aware of the change and, if the sales people don’t tell them, it’s going to be a steady stream of Karen after Karen in the store. The general public doesn’t follow the tech news like this. Most of them aren’t going to be aware they’ll need a new cable if they need more than what’s in the box.
It’s not about the change, apple is specifically trying to get their staff to tell people that their old cables are useless e-waste, not to inform them they need new cables, but to disingenuously convince the public that regulators are the cause for the e-waste.
Or lightning was available first before usbc, and apple went with that and just has been stubborn to change.
Looks like lightning in 2012 and usbc in 2014.
Apple developed lightning. It had the same transfer rate as USB 2.0 which had been out for over a decade. It wasn’t about being “stubborn”, it was about being proprietary.
That’s a fair point. Apple has been known to do that in the past with FireWire.
But I guess on the issue of whether or not — at the time, two years before usb-c was readily available — apple should have used usb-c or lightning (the thing they helped make), you would assume they would go with lightning over waiting until an unknown amount of time for another plug to be available.
When I say they were stubborn to change from that, they were/are simply stubborn to change from that. I wish they would have pulled the bandaid off when they switched to usb-c on iPad.
Though, that said, barring speed/power, I do actually think the lightning connector is a superior design. It’s simpler, and there’s nothing to break inside the port on the phone/device. I wish usb-c was physically the same or similar.
FireWire was legitimately superior at the time, particularly for video transfer.
I still have to disagree. There was no reason for them to develop lightning in the first place. It has 0 advantages over technology already available at the time, and their adapters use the technology they’re trying to upsell anyways- USB.
As for the last subjective part of your statement: “The Apple Community forums are full of people posting stories about their broken cables, and it appears to be one of the most common issues that Apple users are facing.”
Edit: I wish I could find a conclusive source for lightning vs micro-usb charging speed in 2012, it has proven difficult. This article suggests an extremely negligible 0.3A difference that effectively did nothing because all phone batteries at the time had a 1A charging maximum https://www.gearmo.com/things-to-know-about-lightning-cables/
Lightning cables had, and have, substantial advantages over micro-USB:
Apple helped develop USB-C too as they are members of the consortium. No (non-self-serving) reason why they couldn’t have delayed the swap an additional year or two back then.