I’ve definitely turned into the paranoid nutcase within my friend group in recent years, I hate that everything is “smart” nowadays requiring an app/internet connection & account, just to do basic things that didn’t require any of that before.

What’s some things currently making you ramble like an old man?

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    Standards based thin clients, basically. It’s not exactly a bad thing, but I do get your frustration. I still like working with tiny little static sites.

    Mostly though, JavaScript is also just trash. The only language we transpile because working in the vanilla version is so miserable.

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      Surely you mean Typescript? Plain Javascript is as vanilla as you can get on the web (aside from plain plain HTML).

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        TS is basically a JS extension, but no, I meant JavaScript. Webpack, esbuild, babel, and probably a dozen others were not originally built for TS.

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          I’m trying to understand what you meant by “The only language we transpile because working in the vanilla version is so miserable.”

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              Just “ok”?

              The statement “the only language we transpile” is just wrong. Java is a language that we (usually) transpile.

              Then there’s LLVM, and how the frontend transpiles a language into an IR before being sent to a backend that targets a hardware architecture.

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                I think they meant the only language we transpile to for the express reason that working with it directly is so unpleasant.

                Java is not transpiled to another language intended for human use, it’s compiled to JVM bytecode.

                People don’t usually develop software directly in the IR of LLVM. They do develop software using vanilla JavaScript.

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      The fact the Turbo PR caused so much drama earlier this week says it all about JavaScript really. And it’s my daily driver ATM. I’d rather be using PHP. Yes, you read right. At least they’re fixing the duck typing.