Self defense? Only on the battlefield? Only to achieve a ‘noble’ end?

  • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Violence is justified when it’s needed to protect yourself or someone else from violence. That’s about it, honestly.

    I am not a fan of pre-emptive violence.

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    8 months ago

    Self defense but also including defending your rights, freedom, property, and sovereignty

  • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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    8 months ago

    Self defense. But also like someone else said proportionate response is key. If someone gets mad at you in a bar and throws a punch, pushing him away is fine. Hitting him to subdue him is probably okay. Shooting him dead is not.

    I’m also not really okay with people using murder to defend their stuff. Like if someone sneaks into my house and I catch them going out the window with my tv, shooting them is not to me justified. There are more TV’s. That guy gets one life. Remember what Gandalf said.

    I think a lot of people have like tough guy fantasies about shooting a burglar and it always makes me uncomfortable.

    On the other hand, if someone was on trial for shooting a Nazi dead I would find them not guilty. Shame that Nazi spontaneously bled out. But at least he’s gone before he killed my entire family and friends.

  • Melllvar@startrek.website
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    8 months ago

    Violence, by definition, is an unjustified use of force. If a use of force is justified then it isn’t violence.

    For example, suppose you’re walking across a bridge and you see someone about to jump to their death. So you run over, pull them back from the brink, knock them down, and sit on them. Have you committed an act of violence? I would say not.

    On the other hand, suppose the person is just standing on a street corner waiting for the light to change. If you run over, pull them back from the curb, knock them down, and sit on them, that would in fact be an act of violence.

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      8 months ago

      Violence, by definition, is an unjustified use of force.

      Downvoted for being factually incorrect. Nowhere in the (non-doctrinal) definition of violence does it include “unjustified”