Mother among 20 of the big cats flown in from Africa as part of plan to reintroduce animal to country

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    After overcoming the shock ( This article is more than 2 months old! ) /s

    This is really bad and sad. The beautiful cheetahs may not be among us for long.

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      I don’t get why they weren’t monitoring the cheetahs before one died. Seems negligent AF to import an animal and then watch it die. They literally let one die before deciding to do anything. These cheetahs aren’t pure, wild animals if they are imported. WTF India, maybe treat people and animals with more respect. Instead they’re response is, “Oopsies, I guess it was too hot while we watched them die. ” Morons.

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        kinda my thoughts too

        Like they probably didnt just drop over dead. Sure someone could’ve seen it coming. Panting, lethargy, etc are all signs…

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          I read the article and the authorities were watching the cubs for two days as they watched them die. They first took notice when one dropped dead, and they only intervened when the other three collapsed… 😢😢😢

          One cub lived, though. If there’s any solace in all of this, at least one goddamn cub lived.

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        Everyone is to be blamed. From us consumers who buy materialistic stuff to people who manufacture it. Everyone should be punished.

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          That’s not true. We have on record oil and gas companies having studied and internal communication they know climate change is coming. Yacht, private jets, and cruises cause a majority of carbon emmissions. Billionaires are the ones who have yachts and jets and a billionaire owns cruise companies. Musk is the most prominent, but other car manufacturers have lobbied against the building of public transportation.

          We know there is a disproportionate amount of pollution coming from companies. I think we all do need to play a part, but if you want actual meaningful and quick change it needs to come from these companies. You know, these companies that were ruled as “people”. These companies like Amazon who have more money and power than small countries. It’s on these “people” to lead us into clean emissions but they aren’t.

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          It’s not like average people really have a lot of choice in the matter. You can’t practically avoid buying materialistic garbage, because you need stuff just to live, and there aren’t non-shitty alternatives. The blame lies almost exclusively with corporations that took the easiest, cheapest routes in order to maximize profits.

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            Right.

            Corporations didn’t have to say, ship manufacturing to China, where environmental regulations are … lax, and use giant polluting container ships to move good back and forth. But that was cheaper and more profitable than domestic production.

            The pattern repeats across a thousand different examples. It always comes down to businesses being able to externalize environmental impact and a complicit government allowing it.

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            Not just corporations, governments as well. As an American it pisses me off that we’ve spent all of my life debating whether or not it’s real while doing next to nothing, improving milage and emissions is nice but we need to stop and not only for passenger vehicles either trucking and shipping really need to stop their pollution as well. And that’s where governments can come in. They can fund r&d and make rebates at the time of purchase so that it’s easier to make a change. Instead we have dipshits that think because it snows global warming is fake.

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            people could stop flying for leisure - they could stop using their car for every trip that could also be made by bike - they could vote for politicians that are actually campaigning for changing stuff instead of promising people to keep their lifes as it is - they could stop eating meat every day

            there’s a lot of stuff a single person can choose to not do that would result in huge change if enough people did it since that would actually allow even moderate politicians to change things that actually matter.
            if a politician right now is even thinking about banning beef or tripling the price of gas and making flights even more expensive than that they can pretty much start looking for another job since that would be a huge change for a huge part of the population - if enough people started deliveratly foregoing beef or using the most convenient option possible then we might have a chance.

            the problem is that people are fucking lazy and a lot of them are egoistic, too - so everyone just claims that others have to change first…

            and then there are those “bUt ChInA1!1!”-guys that totally ignore that china is building more renewables each month than any other country does per year and that they still pollute less per person than western countries and also less in total over the last 150 years than western countries, too.

            it’s people in the US or Europe that have to lead the charge since they are the ones that profited MASSIVELY from the pollution 100 years ago that led us into this mess…

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              People in the US are trying to change things. Most new homes in my area have a strong emphasis on green technology including heat pumps and solar panels. There’s a big push for EVs over ICEs and there are more and more EV charging stations all over the country every year. The younger generations are calling for more train transportation and Amtrak in my area is actually making some changes to help promote passenger rail.

              Your ‘blame the west’ mentality is some serious PRC propaganda bullshit. 0 of the top 20 most polluted cities in the world are western cities. Most of them are in India, which is actually where these Cheetahs died.

              You want to blame someone? Blame the international elite. The 0.1% takes what they want, consequences be damned.

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                As someone from Germany my toes curl everytime someone blames “the elite” - that’s a very dangerous road of thinking to go down…

                Those 0,1% don’t matter if the 99,9% don’t slow down their emmisions, too.

                Everyone cutting down a little bit is helping A LOT more that the richest 0,1% cutting down most. Sure they pollute a lot more than your average person so they totally should cut down but imho it’s mostly about creating acceptance than about the pure emissions.

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                  While I get your point, it’s those same people who can actually make the change needed. They can stop with their super yachts and support yachts and helicopters and private planes and million dollar cars as disposable playthings and mega mansions they spend a month in a year. They can make the companies they control become greener. You or I could only do so much.

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              That’s a drop in the bucket compared with emissions from super-polluters. Even if I rode my bicycle everywhere–which isn’t practical for where I live–and even if every one of the 5000 people in my town did the same, that still wouldn’t offset Taylor Swift’s jet habit for a week.

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          Most poor people in the West have huge carbon footprints because what they can afford to buy is cheap and imported from countries like China and, if they can afford a car, it’s not likely to be a hybrid or an electric. What else can they do? Should we expect the poor to live shittier lives when the people who are doing the vast majority of the damage are allowed to keep going?

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            60+ years old, not homeless but I’m by the government standards in US at poverty level.

            When you’re poor you are and always have been living a mostly sustainable life, not out of choice, but because you can’t afford any other option. So you don’t eat meat at every meal, and if you do it’s the cheapest kinds and it’s never more than a cup per person, if not less.

            You recycle/re-use/re-purpose anything you can.

            You buy from thrift stores, flea markets, yard sales, goodwill stores, et al.

            You ask for family and friends hand-me-downs, old pots and pans, whatever they got to give, honestly.

            You don’t travel because it’s not even affordable, unless you’re gonna hitch hike or take a greyhound bus.

            You don’t buy books you go to a library IF you’re lucky and one’s located nearby.

            All your technology is old and/or used, refurbed, and if you’re lucky you could cobble something together (build a pc, for example) but you never have the latest and greatest parts etc, you’re always behind and just barely limping along.

            You cut your own hair.

            You make all your own meals.

            You patch and repair your own clothes.

            You suffer when it’s too fucking hot and you freeze when it’s too fucking cold because you either can’t afford an AC, or if you can, then you can’t afford to run it very long, and also either you can’t afford an appliance to heat your home, or if you can, it’s just barely ran so you don’t run it all that high or for very long; and with both AC and Heating, you never heat more than a single room, wherever you are dwelling.

            IF you’re lucky enough to have a vehicle, you do you’re own service and repairs. And you damn sure didn’t buy new.

            And, I could still go on and on.

            I’m NOT stating that everything I did, and have done, and am still reduced to doing, is all 100% sustainable, but I AM stating, that without even purposely trying, just about everything I’ve ever do, always came about out of NECESSITY, rather than a conscious choice to be sustainable, and yet, being poor still brought about A LOT of automatic sustainable results. And I’m feeling it’s that way for most poor people.

            If you can’t afford to consume a lot, then you ain’t consuming a lot.

            Edit to add: And who the hell isn’t buying Chinese made products when 3/4’s off shit sold in the US isn’t even manufactured here.

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            for one people could just stop eating meat - or stop treating flying as a normal thing you do for holiday

            the problem is that most people think others are to blame for one reason or anoher and don’t see that literally everyone has to change…

            this whole thing is just a huge prisoner’s dilemma and noone will make the first move in fear of others not moving and exploiting that situation in the short term while ignoring that they are fucking over the planet in the long run…

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              Right, all of those poor people who take airplanes on their vacations…

              What the fuck are you talking about?

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                You need to differentiate between poor in a wealthy country vs. globally poor. I know plenty of “poor” people in the US who can still scrape together enough cash for a plane ticket to go on vacation, but they’re still in tons of debt with zero savings.

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                  You have to be able to afford to spend thousands to go to any major tourist destination far from you in the U.S. or Europe when you factor in the cost of air travel, hotel cost and food, not to mention any attractions you might want to see while there.

                  If you can afford to “scrape together” enough to do that, you are not poor. It really sounds like your privilege is showing.

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                  “Fuck the people struggling to survive for having the ability to live a little and go on vacation, they deserve to be punished the exact same as the millionaires and billionaires jumping into their private planed to fly 45mins to skip an hour of LA traffic.”

                  That’s what you sounds like, you sound stupid.

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      Wow, at least one highly upvoted comment like this has been on every single post that involves global warming on Lemmy that I’ve clicked on.

      If we get to the point where we “learn our lesson”, most of the innocent creatures on the planet are probably dead. You people depress me.