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Please note this is just a beta and there are going to be bugs, but it works and it works nicely. Have fun.
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My excitement is tempered by two things, the ultra cost being a subscription (I get the “why” I just hate more subscriptions) and also the pretty crappy targeted adverts “consent” whereby you have to scroll through page after page of third party vendors to turn off the “legitimate” interest which is, let’s be honest their way around consent by just ignoring what you want. That’s put me right off in all honesty sorry.
Man, when the Pro lifetime comes out I’m there but at this point I’m not going to engage at all with either being tracked by advertisers or being forced to go through all that. There are other open source apps that don’t do any of that which may not be quite as good but the difference is worth it. Lemmy doesn’t have any ads. Why should I subject myself to ads or being tracked to use what is already free?
Because you know what sync provides and why it’s worth spending money on it. I get these arguments and they are valid but no one forces anyone to use an app. You can just ignore it. I also prefer open source apps and don’t like subscriptions but I bought the Ultra even if I just want to remove the ads. Also the price is not that big so i think of it as a donation.
It’s a nice app, but so is Jerboa, which does not have ads. If there was a one-time ad-free purchase; I would strongly consider it; but I’m not going to pay a subscription to avoid ads on an already ad-free website.
He has already said the onetime ad free purchase is in the works
Glad to hear 👍
Edit image for those who are curious:
How is it “in the works”? It’s not hard to implement, seeing as how he already did it.
And no timeline when it’s coming just a promise it will?
Sounds more like he just wants to test the waters and see what he can make.
I believe the developer is working on a one-time payment Pro version that removes ads. Ultra has additional features for a subscription fee.
It’s out now. $20. No thanks.
Yeah I’m sticking with voyager/memmy
This is also the dev that got really hurt over his paying customers not liking when he completely changed the app they paid for under their nose with no option to roll back, and quit pushing updates for a while after that. It was a whole thing.
I’m not paying a dev that can’t handle feedback and has an entire fanclub cheering on literally every single decision.
Exactly what I thought, agree 100 %
I like sync and spend most of my phone screen time on it so I’m all for buying lj a case of beer once a year.
This right here. I had ultra for reddit and was paying monthly out of my Google rewards earnings. I’m going to do the same again.
I’m never surprised by the lack of understanding as to what it actually costs to run the servers and the time that goes into services and apps like this.
Haha I was the same and didn’t know what to do with myself when I deleted the other app when the blackouts started. Like I would take my phone out, stare at it for a few seconds and put it away again.
Anyway I found other things to do instead of Reddit, and now I’m wondering if it’s a good idea to get Sync again lol. I’ve done so well!
Also the price is not that big so i think of it as a donation.
idk man 530 TRY is kinda not that small of a donation
If you use dns.adguard.com you won’t have any ads.
I always have Blokada running on my phone and while it does remove the ads it still leaves behind a large blank space in the feed.
There’s hope - https://github.com/ReVanced/revanced-patches/issues/2724
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In case you don’t know, there is a newer version which I’ve been rocking for a while with no notable impact:
Yeah, Sync is a great app but it’s basically subscription or ads+tracking for a really slick UI.
Same, I’m ok with a subscription but I would want it like Sync for Reddit where I pay 5-6-7€ to remove the ads and the rest can stay on Ultra.
Edit: Also the per vendor “legitimate interest” toggle without the option to decline all at once is pretty scummy and also illegal.
And the list is soon loooong
per vendor “legitimate interest” toggle
Where is this toggle?
Main page > Menu > Settings > Privacy > Revoke GDPR permissions
I also don’t see this anywhere… Would love some clues!
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Thanks for having the balls to say this, because yeah, I immediately noticed this.
Then there’s me, who actively went hunting for where I could pay for this app as soon as I opened it
This dev has never been anything but respectful of his community. I have no qualms paying him the equivalent of 2 beers a year for something I have used for multiple hours a day every day for more than a decade. Easy value proposition.
The targeted ads thing I guess I get, but I haven’t had ads on Sync for so long it honestly didn’t really phase me because I planned to buy ad free anyway. Hopefully that bit gets streamlined.
It’s amazing how many cookie consent banners aren’t compliant. There has to be a button where you can clearly reject all, where it has equal look and feel as accept all. By default all non required cookies must be disabled, but the fact we can turn off the legitimate interest options shows they’re not required, and so they’re not compliant.
Basically every banner should have a reject button that’s just as clear as the accept. I’d you’re going through any extra effort to reject then it’s not compliant.
We need a Pro version, ad free, but without a subscription. Ultra should stay ultra.
I have been using Sync (for rediit) since its early day. During that time, it had a free and paid Pro version. The inrony is, there was no difference between the free and paid version, both have same features and no ads. Anyway, I paid for the Pro, because I was so satisfied and happy using it, and I because want to help the dev. Its been using it for so many years until last month. It was more than worth it.
Now we have sync for lemmy version, I am with no doubt coming back to it. If I can, I will pay for Ultra, but not for this moment - taking into acoout of exchange rate in my country (third world SEA country). Given the chance if I get back living in Europe, II will pay for it.
The ads is not a welcomed feature, but it pales into insignificance, buried by my excitement having back Sync. Sync is not and opensource app - at the end of the day, someone need to pay for bills. I heard they could be an ad-free pro version, but not sure. Maybe you can ask those at Discord. If yes, it could be a much affordable alternative.
I bought the yearly subscription.
One, I want to support devs making top tier clients for lemmy. Two, this stuff isn’t free to do or maintain, as a dev, I recognize and appreciate that.
If someone comes out with a better client for cheaper, then I’ll switch, otherwise, these terms are acceptable.
Thanks for pointing that out. Big no for me. I shuddered when I saw Facebook mentioned there.
Would be good to have both options. Someone prefers to have a subscription to cancel whenever, and someone wants to not think about it anymore after purchasing.
There will be both options
I didn’t even notice that at first, because ProtonVPN blocks ads and all that’s left is a blank grey square.
When I installed the app I didn’t see any vendor list to turn off ads. This is what my feed looks like
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e9ebe3a8-d6f1-4ef2-b47b-b61fef66fc62.png
(I couldn’t figure out the formatting for hyperlinks, hopefully this works.
Is Sync Pro out yet? I need to give ljdawson my money asap
It’s a service, why should you pay once? It’s like water and electricity, ongoing cost needs to be balanced by ongoing revenue. Especially when the utility is also ongoing.
If you prefer paying once, get some dividend ETFs and use the dividends to pay for the service. Yes, it’s expensive, but you can also sell the etf again when you stop using the service.
One of the dumbest comments I read here.
can you enlighten me?
I get why subscriptions exist but everything right now is trying to push you into a subscription. I really don’t need yet another subscription in my life.
I’m all for paying for Sync but it won’t be via a subscription. Sorry.
Oh my god it’s beautiful. It’s so beautiful.
It’s so smooooth.
I am here now and I am sad for liftoff. It has been great. But Sync. Man.
I think how well sync was made is why I got so addicted to reddit in the first place. I use redreader now for reddit and it’s a major reason I’m over there way less often. Just not as enjoyable.
It’s awesome!
Oh and please note that bugs should be reported in #sync-support-and-bugs in the discord: https://discord.gg/qYWxqva or the github.
LJ has been working very hard - this is beta 24 from no betas a week ago.
And again, it is a beta - some features like Ad-free IAP and submissions are not there, but they will be in there eventually.
Thanks for the info, I was looking for where I could buy Pro (ad-free) and I couldn’t find it.
Somewhere else in this post, it’s mentioned that an ad-free iap is coming later. Only option at the moment is ultra.
Why not have a lemmy community for support and bugs?
A lemmy community for bugs woud be very hard to keep track of. Discord allows segmented, real time conversations which is simply better.
A matrix chat would be more optimal then.
Not everything has to be decentralized or federeted
I agree that not everything has to be decentralized, but why not replace Discord with Matrix given hew mature and nice Matrix is? IMO, this is one of those things that should be decentralized.
We’ve been using Discord for 3 or 4 years now, he has a community built there
How about we bridge the channels across to rooms on Matrix? That could work.
Yeah it should. Also Discord is a plague. Though tbh Element is still years behind Discord which is unfortunate.
Agreed. If we want to move away from Reddit, why not move away from Discord too?
You can report on the GitHub issue tracker too
Seeing all the usernames hosted at different servers feels refreshing. As the internet should be, distributed.
Hey everyone. Happy to finally get this out, it’s been one busy month.
I’m looking to add a lifetime option for ultra & option to just remove ads. Keep in mind this is the first release, lots more to follow.
Cheers!
Lj
Posting from sync, let’s go!
I’ve only had a brief look, but is there a way to pay for pro (but not ultra) so I can remove ads?
From the discussions I have seen, there’s going to be an IAP for ad-free.
What is IAP?
in-app purchase! it’ll be a one-time thing, like sync pro for reddit was
In App Purchase.
In-app purchase I assume
This needs to be done ASAP. There are people refusing to use the app with the subscription model and don’t want ads.
Is this confirmed by the developer?
Will there be an option for people who paid for ad free on the reddit sync app to transfer that over to the lemmy app, or will they have to pay again?
100% no. It’s a different app. I had Pro Ultra Lifetime back there :)
Agreed. I want a “one and done” payment so I don’t need to keep thinking about it.
Im.in the android beta, there’s a Sync Ultra option that’s paidw
Yeah but no lifetime option anymore. That’s sadly a no go for me. I had pro and ultra lifetime before and I would’ve bought ultra again but I don’t do subscriptions anymore. I don’t know. Liftoff isn’t too bad.
Same here brother. No lifetime no buy from me too.
This is a beta version. The dev will add one time purchase to remove ads at later release.
Ultra and Pro are different things if I’m not wrong.
Commenting from sync! I’m so happy. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
First order of businesses.
Commenting from Sync! I feel back at home.
It’s so weird. Kinda feels like I just took a break. Good to be back!
Same! Such a thrill to open the app. Love that all my settings are there, dark mode, images on the right, it’s just perfect and I couldn’t be happier.
Firstly, I’m happy to see Sync return.
I made sure to subscribe to help make developing the app financially viable.
Secondly… With the Sync beta just going live, I’m already running into my very first bugs.
What would be the appropriate place to report these bugs?Edit: My question has already been answered by OP:
Oh and please note that bugs should be reported in #sync-support-and-bugs in the discord: https://discord.gg/qYWxqva
Let’s fucking go!
It’s a nice app mostly but there’s a few things stopping me from loving it currently
- No lifetime license, I refuse to use a subscription service
- list view mode doesn’t have the option to have buttons enabled and always showing
- can’t disable auto hide of comment actions
- No way to hide viewed posts
- can’t highlight and copy text from a comment It just hides content instead (like why?) Only option is to copy all text from a comment but I don’t want to copy all just a small selection…
- No option for top bar, only bottom and side
My neighbor just called asking why I was moaning so loud
Why am I seeing ads on Lemmy???
Just tried it, looks good!
- So many options, the customability is really nice
- There is a premium option to copy subscriptions between instances (not ready yet).
- Live comment refresh mode
- Default font size could be too small for most people. I switched to Medium right away on a 6 inch phone.
- Sports Mode in comments is a fun feature :)
- Search Comments is really useful, I have missed this in other clients
- It has faster and smoother scrolling of comments than other clients, very noticeable.
- Being able to collapse comments by clicking on the number of comments is very useful.
So many options everywhere, it’s a step up from previous clients for sure.
Making this client in such a short time is ultra impressive. Will be worth the money if being on Lemmy a lot, and also just to support developers like this who dare to bet on Lemmy.
Default font size could be too small for most people.
I agree. I’d say that I have somewhat good eyesight but I had to bump everything one size up.
Did the same. I am pretty sure that one size up was the default in the Sync for Reddit.
Yeah, I used huge and very large on the old app, and that isn’t changing here. I tried header/very large, but it was a bit too much. Nice to be able to read comfortably without squinting at the screen.
Hard disagree. Default was perfect for me. Could depend on your phone settings and DPI maybe?
I have my phone on default settings (regarding display/size). It’s perfect on every other app and the OS UI in general. It’s just small in Sync. Bumping everything up one size makes it identical to every other app and the OS.
Sports Mode in comments is a fun feature :)
Can you tell me what it does?
It’s basically auto refresh of comments in a thread, so if you have your phone in front of you while running on a thread mill or something, you will see updated comments without touching your phone.
I feel like LJ should seriously reconsider switching the colours on the logo and up- and downvotes in accordance with Lemmy’s layout
Literally unusable like this, #1 priority ಠ_ಠ
I feel so at home in this app!
I love it. Can’t wait to remove ads (because it seems IAP is not here yet?)
Yeah I’m not very interested in a subscription service but I’d happily pay a larger fee upfront to remove ads forever with no extra features. I can handle settings backup/sync myself.
I love LJ’s work and will happily remove ads from Sync when possible (even though my adblocker hides them anyway). I’m not very fond of buying Ultra, as I hate paying for something I won’t use. Ironically I would rather make a recurring donation via Liberapay and get nothing out of it than pay for some functionality and feel uneasy about never using it, lol. I already support my home instance on Liberapay
The sub also gives a massive cut to Google, which is a waste of money
It’s 15%, since LJ makes less than a million a year
This is the only part of ultra that actually bothers me. I grabbed it primarily to support the development. And I’d be much more happy about it if 100% went to the creator. But app stores remove any apps that tell you how to pay a different way. So there could be a way and the app simply isn’t allowed to tell us.
I immediately subscribed to ultra. The reason is I think there is not enough active Lemmy users to sustain app developments with just one time purchase right now. I used sync for reddit a lot in the past (bought pro and dev versions, but not subscription version), but for the Lemmy version, I think it would be hard for the dev to continue working on the Lemmy version indefinitely (I think the dev is working on this full time?) without some sort of recurring income. I don’t want this app to die an early death so I’ll do what I can to support it, including paying for the relatively small $17/year subscription.
