• sphenoid@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Hey look, we’re back to concern-trolling trans people so that we can deny them care again

  • mo_ztt ✅@lemmy.worldOP
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    11 months ago

    Scorecard: 21 downvotes, 1 call for my post to be removed, 4 people vigorously telling me I’m wrong, and 0 responses to my polite request for sources showing why this article isn’t accurate.

    Guys, I am genuinely asking for information, because I don’t know. Being eager to yell at me and silent about informing me is a bad way to be.

  • Lammy@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Where the hell are the mods for this sub?

    Is this a propaganda sub?

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    10 months ago

    I’m not giving the Economist my info to read this. However, you know what’s a lot less safe than puberty blockers? Teenage suicidality. I’m not trans, but I was a very suicidal teenager, and if trans people say puberty blockers make them safer and less suicidal, I believe them, and we should do everything we can to reduce the number of teens that feel that way. Including puberty blockers. They’re reversible, safe (we’ve been giving them to kids for conventional medical reasons for a long time), and the community affected says they help. How many kids are we willing to let die while we’re waiting for more evidence?

    • mo_ztt ✅@lemmy.worldOP
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      10 months ago

      How many kids are we willing to let die while we’re waiting for more evidence?

      So - I’m actually not saying we need to ban this use of these drugs until it’s been studied more. The honest truth is, I have no idea about that side of it; my only real opinion on it is that it would be a really good thing to study them in a lot of detail and then make the recommendation based on that.

      That’s what bothers me more than anything about the whole conversation. It’s like this reaction of “Well you must be the ENEMY, you really hate trans people and you’re just LYING about wanting to study the drugs, even you being allowed to say that is TERRIBLY DANGEROUS. Just approve the drugs, they’re clearly safe, because I say so, and if you disagree there’s something TERRIBLY WRONG WITH YOU.” I don’t know how else to say it: I am not the enemy, I don’t think.

      As far as I can tell, the Economist article is saying that the drugs haven’t been studied in adolescents as much as would be reasonable. I took a bunch of time to look over @sphenoid’s sources in detail, because it’s important to me, and my overall conclusion was in agreement with that statement. So I took time to respond, giving a bunch of detail from my own desire to know more about it, and then the conversation ended.

      It just seems weird that my whole viewpoint is “the enemy” and engenders this kind of hatred because everyone assumes that the reasons I’m saying it are borne out of some kind of hatred on my side.