Unironically this

If you can provide evidence for what really happened, I’ll happily take a look.

I wasn’t able to get screenshots before I was banned, and the moderator in question very clearly scrubbed the chat to cover the whole thing and whatever other mess other people attested to happening afterwards. The only thing anyone can do is take my word for it, and accounts of some of the other people who posted and saw the aftermath.

I did, however, get accused of making antisemitic remarks, which never happened, but comments were seen being made by others in these comments after I had already been banned. So either the moderator lied, or is terrible at moderating and lumped me in with antisemitic users as an excuse or because they’re just that bad at handling moderation.

https://todon.nl/@glacial/114744544014616152

And yes, my language was harsh, and I apologise for that. I’ve just seen people making up drama to discredit communities before, and it gets on my nerves somewhat.

And in response you made up a bunch of bullshit in an effort to discredit me. In other words, you made up drama.

Copying my comment from the other thread (they’ve made a few).

No, “they” haven’t. I have made exactly one thread. Other people may have cross posted elsewhere, but there is exactly one from the person who saw this firsthand, which is me.

Firstly, the entire conversation was scrubbed from the chat, and it was done so before the lemmy.ml callout post was discovered/made. So claiming that they’re “okay with it” is a bit of a stretch.

No, it isn’t a stretch, considering I literally described how the only person to get moderated and get called a nutcase was the person calling out racism, which was me.

I don’t know or care enough to say who is right or wrong, but here you go in case anyone wants to look into it.

Yet you still felt the need to comment and make up a bunch of bullshit out of nowhere, as if that’s remotely meaningful or irrelevant to anyone looking into it.

What I assumed happened is that people were talking about the lawsuit and someone offhandedly mentioned Asmongold. Then GlacialTurtle decided to go on a long rant about genocide and then was told to cool it. Because obviously anyone that doesn’t want to talk about genocide in a server about Linux software is in fact tactily supporting genocide, Turtle doubled down and ended up getting banned. Then they went to their next platform to complain about it, Lemmy, and now here we are two degrees removed from the discussion with no actual receipts.

None of this happened. You literally invented a whole scenario in your own head just to attack someone, so as to defend something you didn’t see, about a topic you admit you don’t know anything about, because like so many other dipshits online, you feel the need to spew out a take based on nothing than your own ill-concieved, ill-informed presumptions, because you’re a fucking idiot.

What you assumed is irrelevant, because it turns out assumptions can be wrong.

I guess damage control after what resplendent said, seeing as the stuff I mentioned as prompting a response from me I’m pretty sure had been up for a while and had a response from the mod already with no action (nothing about topics being inappropriate or anything like that, no actual moderation was done at the time). It was only me saying anything that prompted any reaction.

Which I guess is a very good demonstration of why you don’t let that shit fester or you get people like that thinking they’re welcome. Would you be willing to maybe send me some screenshots? (be careful there’s no personally identifying information in them)

They deleted everything you posted and talked about it for a bit.

Of course they did, first rule of every bad moderator is immediately deleting shit. Did they leave the other responses up? Someone specifically said something along the lines of “Palestinians were kicked out of every culture”.

Some others have come in to pick a fight with them.

To push back on their racist shit? If so, then based, as they say.

I’m sorry you don’t care that spaces adjacent to software projects aren’t properly moderated, but I think it’s pretty important if developers are going to publicise spaces to get tech support, talk about the project, contribute etc. that they shouldn’t be home to racist and even genocidal rhetoric as a baseline of decency.

And if you don’t have the means to moderate these spaces, don’t operate them and certainly don’t promote and link them on your official site and other social media. Is it really terminally online to not want far right adjacent shit associated with your project and promoted across your websites as the place to go for support?

At the very least it’s linked directly from their homepage and their masto page: https://fosstodon.org/@lutris

I don’t think so? I didn’t think to grab the username before I was kicked. But the discord is linked on the website and their masto page, invite link works, so people can probably see for themselves (offtopic channel).

BTW, you are not a nutcase and do not deserve to be banned for calling them out.

With my experience over the last year, it’s nice for once for someone to not just be like “Ohh so you think Hamas is good???” and all that bullshit for once.

Seeing far right adjacent shit go unchallenged is difficult for me to ignore, even moreso when they then just casually engage in racist rhetoric against Palestinians to excuse literal genocidal language. Was never really active in the discord until seeing that shit just being left alone to fester, and clearly it has the approval of whoever is left to mod there.

You have 4 removed comments before the ban, the rest of your history is still very visible in your profile, so they didn’t purge your account, they removed a few comments, which is why it says, “removed by mod”. It’s funny reading your removed comments. The downvote removal is looked back on as a pretty good change. I’ve not used the site when it had downvotes, but frankly, I like that they’re gone. I don’t even know what the “main” issue is, and I’ve never heard anyone talk about it. The site has never struck me as a “Chapo” site, even though I know that is its origins. I’ve listened to the Chapo pod before, not for me, honestly. Frankly, seems that separating from the Chapo brand was the right choice.

Yes, it’s been few years and I hadn’t checked. I thought it had been purged entirely.

The main issue at the time was the general way admins/mods approached every issue, often in the most aggressive and hostile way imaginable and causing lots of unnecessary drama. Downvote removal and the name change of the site were part of a larger, fantastically absurd saga in which nothing was being handled well. With downvotes for example, where it was announced that any opposition to them being removed was innately transphobic, then trans users criticising this approach, only for said trans users to be banned for pushing back.

Anyway, 4 years is a long time to hold a grudge.

Not really “Holding a grudge” when I mention something directly relevant to the thread that asked about Hexbear accounts. It was just a bunch of absurd bullshit that’s part of the very dumb lore of hexbear.

When someone is banned, their posts are automatically deleted, it’s not some crazy admin obsession to ‘purge your entire history’.

Nope. That’s not how it worked at the time. I even still have screenshots of being able to see banned users posts still there from around this time. My comments specifically showed “removed by mod”. I just checked and I can still see a post by an alt I made shortly after being banned (which was then also banned shortly after). So no, banned users did not have their posts automatically deleted.

Proof right here even.

This story does appear to be “an admin abused their power to ban me, then that admin got banned for being caught abusing their power”. Which is not uncommon in online communities.

That is not remotely what happened. The person in question continued to be a mod for some time. Their eventual banning had nothing to do with what happened to me or others.

There were multiple mods and admins acting this way around this timeframe against many users on the site, so they’d all have had to ban themselves for the same behaviour.

Edit: Actually, now checking again, and the mods account in question doesn’t even have the banned indicator, so I think they may have just deleted their account.

I used to have an account. I was an old /r/chapotraphouse user before it got shut down.

A dipshit admin got mad when I referenced ridiculous drama that reflected badly on how the site was (and probably still is) being run, insisted to me that it didn’t happen, banned me before I could even post a link or screenshot demonstrating it happened, purged my entire comment and submission history (mostly news and longer pieces I found interesting, nothing even remotely rule breaking or controversial) then proceeded to monitor the creation of new accounts to ban any usernames similar to mine as soon as they appeared.

All of the exact behaviour that would have been endlessly made fun of for being so extremely online and extremely pathetic on the old subreddit.

That admin/mod who did that is now also banned and their posts also purged lmfao. Hexbear in a nutshell.

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They won’t because they’re the ones making money from it. The only reason they care about this is likely because they don’t get money from ads as they don’t have any related advertising business like Google and Apple does.

It’s the same as when they kicked EA off of steam. EA allowed buying DLC without going through Steam. If they’re not getting a cut, but you are being hosted/distributed by them, they don’t want it.

Hey guys, look at this dipshit, drawing irrelevant distinctions and pointlessly trying to police other peoples language because they think the only reason others would use those terms is because they’re “edgy and transgressive”.

Tell me, where on the fascism to nazism meter is mass deportations, muslim bans, endorsing far right militias, supporting running over protestors, palling around with white supremacists, and seeking to eradicate trans people from public life? Are we at .49? or is it more like .76? My readings seems to be off. Just so I know I’m not using the incorrect terms so some moron from .world doesn’t get mad and try to incessantly police terms on the internet.

It’s not even clever at this point, maybe it was edgy and transgressive like 7 years ago.

Are you really this childish that you genuinely think the only reason people might suggest Trump is a fascist is because it was “edgy and transgressive”? Not the fascist rhetoric, increasingly fascist policy and the various fascists he’s willing to work with and support?

Log the fuck off.