I hear that. I’ve got a down sleeping bag that I feel the same way about. Still kinda makes me feel bad though.

Nice. I have trouble not riding fast. It’s too fun. But I do go slower in the rain. I’ll check out some gortex for sure

Yeah, that’s out. I’m vegan, so no leather for me.

That’s kinda how I do it now. But it’s gonna get cold soon, and even I am not immune to the cold and wind.

You got recommendations? I get hot very easily. So if I wear rain pants on a ride that’s longer than a few miles, I’m gonna be wet anyway.

Seriously. Over half this thread is people feeding this troll.

And the solution was to kill the birds?? Surely there is an option that is less lethal, no?