Why can’t you outlaw it? Define generative/inference AI systems, ban companies from interacting with EU people and companies, and then heavily punish anything being revealed to be commercially sold, made or used with that AI within the EU.
yeah exactly! AI should have never been allowed to exist and/or allowed to be used in the EU, and anything created with it should be heavily punished.
Shooting yourself in the foot so others can’t shoot you in the foot? No.
How about outlawing and banning the shooting of feet instead? That might work better.
No disrespect to you, but it is clear you don’t understand the technology well.
Algorithms are, per definition, routine computations to perform a task. Even clicking on a link and then the browser requesting and displaying the page associated with it is an algorithm!
And about (generative) AI: -They cannot be made energy efficient because generation (giving you a text or image) is incredibly energy consuming -You cannot build an AI without bias or discrimination, because all your training material has to be unbiased and without discrimination - and social progress means that we will continue to recognize previously unknown harms in society. AI can only be as unbiased as its most biased training material. And the amount of data you need for training is too high to be efficient to gather before training. -AI cannot be made to be accurate. It is definitionally impossible, because it is basically an extension of auto-correct - it can only predict the next likely word from a huge collection of data. Accuracy is never a part of the algorithm of AI. -In terms of public service, it would be better to point out above chatbots that they can only generate legibile text, all other aspects are secondary.
So, in summary, what you suggest is technologically impossible, or at least misguided.
EU investing in AI is not a win, good, or anything desirable.
AI is the worst “technology” to surface in a “post-fact” news, which helps proliferate fake news, misinformation, biased and propagandized talking points (i.e. pro-israel, anti-hong-kong-sovereignty, racism and transphobia…), kills jobs and undervalues labour in a cost of living and housing crisis.
This investment is a signal saying that the EU will not be a union for its people, but for its elite and businesses. It’s an abdication of morals by EU politicians and governments.
Do people not realise that von der Leyen is a right-wing fan of totalitarianism? What she supports cannot be good for us.
Using mono ulture as a word doesn’t change the meaning here. If anything, its a pathway for the foal you ascribe.
I do give you credit about the second part - it would be better to have your own private key in chat apps, which isn’t handled by the app itself, at the very least to establish a shared key. I still think the existence of crypto is a massive boon to many, even in a “flawed” implementation with the “control” being on the side of corporations - tho if they are smart, they’d never store the keys themselves, not even hashes. Unless you’re part of the signal project, I doubt you know the exact implementation and storage of data they do.
Still, thanks for summarising your lengthy post, even if I had to bait you into it. Sometimes, brevity is key.
that’s a lot of words to say you generally accuse any programm that isn’t federated of having an agenda targeted at its userbase.
And lots of social woo-woo that doesn’t extend much further than “people don’t understand cryptography and think it’s therefore scary”.
A pretty weird post, and one which I don’t support any statement from because I think you’re wrong.
Yeah, I got that context now, which I also accounted for with the “usually” qualifier. I still think it builds an attitude that is toxic to outsiders and can potentially push someone into a right-wing position. I have witnessed first hand how someone fell down a fascist rabbit hole via online places touting language superiority.
bro just skipped the “usually” part and made a rant against things being judged politically.
I think the “everything has to be written in German” part of ich_iel is also establishing a rather nationalist online culture through linguistic homogeny and illegibility to outsiders. So, yeah, you may not want to recognize the impact your words may have, but it’s clear to many others.
Well, everything is politics. But I was more wondering about the “sprich deutsch” Part - that’s usually more of a racist thing, and therefore right wing politics. But if you don’t see public transport as political you might be right-wing overall?
Was it your plan to hit em with the left right politics punch, or…?
I really liked Mutazione! Made by an indiedev in, I think, the Netherlands. It has a very unique vibe to it with great world building~
fuck crypto currency, fuck cloudflare, and fuck “AI agents” (they don’t exist and cannot work)!
Haha, yeah I’m not the OP! But the way my german is phrased here and how the replier interpreted it would read as super passive aggressive (think “I didn’t ask that question but thanks”), and for that I apologize 😭 I just meant I’m not the OP😌
I know that Square you’re talking about!
danke für deinen Beitrag! Auch wenn ich dir Frage nicht gestellt hab, war dein Post super informativ und hab auch echt was gelernt :) Besonders die Perspektive, wie in deinem Feld an das Thema herangegangen wird ist für Laien sehr wertvoll um ein Gefühl für die wichtigen Aspekte zu erkennen! (und denke mal, bei dem Username, dass du deutsch sprechen kannst haha)
sounds like using crypto is a huge contributor to even being affected here. Maybe next time, an ETF might be more lucrative in the long run (can’t crypto-steal that) and more secure…
I agree. Generally, I think AI is a net negative in any context or scenario, because of the way the tech is built. The badness of AI is inherent, a priori of any copyright discussion. It’s a garbage creator that lowers the overall quality of any mass-data applications, be it aggregation like search engines or Wikipedia, or entertainment media, like photo search results, videos or books.
I doubt microsoft has any talent left. If anything, whatever talent they may have, it cannot and will not be able to change things for the better. Their products are absolutely shit.
generative AI, which is definitionally explicit in terms of how the technology works, and can therefore be banned. Analytical AI (like, mammography scan pattern recognition, which is the only “AI” of value) is technologically disjointed, not created by the typical genAI companies, and can therefore be excluded from the ban.