Sometimes you are just right. No mind reading required.

Sometimes they come back. I’ve re-learned to use apt-get dist-upgrade for Proxmox patching.

Well, that’s interesting. I guess linux really is going more mainstream, if that’s the more common user experience. The users I know are mostly professionals that enjoy tinkering under the hood. Thanks for your perspective, stranger.

Ok, I can see that in SteamOS, users that don’t directly interact with a package manager. That seems likely.

I would say that ‘most users’ of just about any linux distro know all about command line package managers.
So, my ‘most users’ and your ‘most users’ don’t seem to be the same people.

Yes, exactly. The company I work for has lots of yum scripting. I don’t hate dnf, its just not the interface I’ve used at work.

I don’t know these linux people that don’t use package managers. So I asked.

Who are ‘most users’?

I guess I should learn about that last bit. Someday …

That makes perfect sense until I contrast it with the fact that I’ve never had any sort of issue with yum’s performance. I do this crap for a living. I might carry out the same install or patching on several servers. As long as it executes in a consistent and reliable way, performance is really a secondary consideration.

Well the distros in question are pretty standard. RHEL, CENT, Oracle, Rocky. Ok. At least they let me keep my interface.

None that I know of. I’m pretty sure they are both installed. I think dnf has some sort of TUI. I was just never interested.

They mentioned YUM just long enough to shit on it. I’ve never had a reason to switch to DNF. Fukit. YUM works.

The devs are some really strange folks. They would enjoy your discomfiture.

But as OP said, they are really, emphatically, antifa-level before antifa was cool, no-nazi.

I recommend reading their “Frequently Questioned Answers” document, aka Dash1.
https://fqa.9front.org/dash1.release.pdf

I’ve read a lot of tech docs through the years. Hands down, this is my favorite.

I do not recommend installing their OS, unless you have time to kill and curiosity.
9front is completely useless. It’s a programmer’s toy; a sandbox to develop some OS build ideas.

I install 9front releases, screw with a couple windows, and give up again. It’s a cycle.

I’ve been watching this thread, expected to hear this, but not yet …
I know Google’s office products are essentially the same problem, but they are at very least free (in dollars).
I haven’t used MS Office in years. We use Google at work. I use my NextCloud at home.

I host my nextcloud on hetzner.

Read the hetzner doc. Follow it carefully.
https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/apps/list/nextcloud/

Catch me in the nextcloud comm if you have questions.
https://eviltoast.org/post/15869213

Oh. I have a soft spot for spherical cows.
Years ago I authored most of the Uncyclopedia page on the topic. Hehe. I see my edits there from 2010.

I definitely do not care about dicing an onion uniformly, but I read and enjoyed the entire analysis.

All of the diagrams are of a cross-section of the middle of an onion. You know, it being round and all, it naively makes a lot of sense to assume that’s going to be ok as a model for the entire onion.

But … I find myself curious … if the solution is to cut to an angle below the onion, and the article did point out that a few pieces along the bottom would be mismatched … It seems that we are overlooking the top and bottom of the onion where sections are going to get some really weird looking cuts.

They say, “This is an onion. (Well, a simplified cross-section of one.)”
… No. No that is not an onion. Its not that they’ve chosen an easy problem, but the approximation used here is not an onion.

Mmm. Ya ya. No argument. But its iDRAC. I’ve had to sit through enough propaganda. I’m pretty sure about this.