It ruins mental healths and warps human interactions. It’s not personal appearance I have issue with, it’s warped lies creating own and others’ insecurities.
@Sprite Trans people wear and need a lot of makeup. To, you know, feel like themselves. Not wearing makeup hurts their mental health. Have you ever thought about that?
@Sprite And besides, what even counts as “makeup”? A lot of things *you* do as a daily routine could be just as well considered “makeup”.
What is “illusion”? A lot of things you interact with on a daily basis is an “illusion”. “Illusions” and imagined constructs make up our whole society. They are our superpower as a species, you don’t want the world without them, just trust me.
I mean, if we’re supposed to debate the meanings of words we can look up in a dictionary, how could we do anything, let alone build a country? That’s the kind of sophistry some corporate lawyer would do.
A lot of things we don’t do because we can do them, but because we can’t not do them.
Given time and population, you’ll build some kind of country, whether you want it or not.
As for “meaning of words we can look up in a dictionary”… My dear, you haven’t worked with language long enough to see what I’ve seen. And let me tell you, dictionaries have more contradictions than any text you can dig up. And that’s completely normal. Because this is also what we can’t not do, because there’s a giant hole at the bottom of all definitions, because the world is an incomprehensible mess, and always will be.
Shit, we can even barely answer basic questions like “what the fuck the colour orange is?”
I do know a lot of trans people as well. And they DO want to alter their appearance to feel better. And they do exactly that. Who are you to tell them otherwise? I’m not trying to make “your” trans people to wear makeup, why should you ban makeup for the “mine”?
What’s weird is attempting to ban alteration of one’s appearance. This is overbearing, futile, and simply not reasonable.
For fuck’s sake, will you ban performance art like theatre and cinema as well?
If I may ask, why the focus on personal appearance?
It ruins mental healths and warps human interactions. It’s not personal appearance I have issue with, it’s warped lies creating own and others’ insecurities.
🤔 So like, what about trans people?
Wdym?
@Sprite Trans people wear and need a lot of makeup. To, you know, feel like themselves. Not wearing makeup hurts their mental health. Have you ever thought about that?
@pinkdrunkenelephants
@Sprite And besides, what even counts as “makeup”? A lot of things *you* do as a daily routine could be just as well considered “makeup”.
What is “illusion”? A lot of things you interact with on a daily basis is an “illusion”. “Illusions” and imagined constructs make up our whole society. They are our superpower as a species, you don’t want the world without them, just trust me.
@pinkdrunkenelephants
I mean, if we’re supposed to debate the meanings of words we can look up in a dictionary, how could we do anything, let alone build a country? That’s the kind of sophistry some corporate lawyer would do.
@pinkdrunkenelephants Y’see…
A lot of things we don’t do because we can do them, but because we can’t not do them.
Given time and population, you’ll build some kind of country, whether you want it or not.
As for “meaning of words we can look up in a dictionary”… My dear, you haven’t worked with language long enough to see what I’ve seen. And let me tell you, dictionaries have more contradictions than any text you can dig up. And that’s completely normal. Because this is also what we can’t not do, because there’s a giant hole at the bottom of all definitions, because the world is an incomprehensible mess, and always will be.
Shit, we can even barely answer basic questions like “what the fuck the colour orange is?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX0xWJpr0FY
What we can do, is define words from context to context and hope to navigate those contradictions.
What matters in the end is, if we’re at all better of for the way we navigate, or worse. It’s the only thing that matters, really.
Oh, really?
How are we having this conversation then?
I was speaking of foundation. I know many trans people and they seldom if ever wear makeup. That’s a weird assertion.
@Sprite Foundation of what?
I do know a lot of trans people as well. And they DO want to alter their appearance to feel better. And they do exactly that. Who are you to tell them otherwise? I’m not trying to make “your” trans people to wear makeup, why should you ban makeup for the “mine”?
What’s weird is attempting to ban alteration of one’s appearance. This is overbearing, futile, and simply not reasonable.
For fuck’s sake, will you ban performance art like theatre and cinema as well?
That is not okay, you should not be given power.
Most trans people wear heavy makeup to present as their desired gender. The ones that don’t are the exception to the rule.