I’m rude to debt collectors who call me trying to collect debts from people who happen to once have had the same phone number as I once did. Like, I’m not who you’re trying to collect from, fuck off.

I’m also rude to generally any scam caller, they’re some of the few people I take great pleasure in telling off because I can get away with it. They’re scammy assholes, what’re they gonna do? Cry to the authorities? Knowing that they’re pieces of shit who scam people out of money? Good fucking luck.

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    I work in IT and occasionally encounter super sexist people who want a man to fix their computers. I’m not rude to these people while on the phone with them and I make sure to be extra kind. I totally talk shit after hanging up though. Fuck anyone who thinks I can’t do my job because I’m a woman.

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      I hate that. I used to run an auto business and some customers wanted to speak to a man. I’d always tell them that this woman here has the most experience in the shop and if they don’t want to hear her, they can go to the next shop.

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      I used to work at a lube shop with a female tech and occasionally we’d get the same shit from old dudes where they didn’t want her to touch their car because she was a woman. I always made them wait for the shift change because “we don’t switch positions until lunch break and she’s in the pit”. Have fun sitting for 4 hours assholes. She was one of the better techs we had anyway having actually gotten a certification.

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      Thats kinda sad that people do that… your fully capable of helping her. Theres enogh stories that show she will never have “the right person for the job”.

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      I’m rude to those and I’m a guy. Women are as good as men at our job and everyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot lacking respect and I don’t respect that.

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        Most women in tech are not very good

        Citation needed.

        Anyway you don’t have to be very good to be better than 95% of the population, because most people can barely operate outlook.

        I also resent the implication I have to be a super nerd to be good at IT. It’s not actually that hard, you just have to bother to read the instructions.

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          Sure. It’s always hard to know exactly what kind of skills we are even taking about here. IT is a huge area.

          You don’t have to be a super nerd to be good at IT but you do have to read instructions and learn things, which means you are actually interested in it. That’s all it takes.

          Most girls are not interested in those things so they become project managers or IT managers and other things that are more interesting to them. That’s my experience at least.

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            Just. Stop. Digging!

            We get it; you’re a “Nice Guy that has helped plenty of little ladies figure out their career paths because their stupid little heads don’t know better”.

            Good god - do you have any idea how much of a tool you sound like? I hope you don’t have supervisory authority over anyone. I pity them if you do, and cheer the eventual hostile workplace/harassment lawsuit brought against you and your employer/enabler.

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          They managed to sound sexist and also insult all IT people because “if you have a personal life you clearly are bad at your job”.

          I’m mad as hell. Pissed because of the sexism but mad because how fucking dare he say that programmers can’t be good if they have an actual life? I’ve been very appreciated in all the jobs I’ve done and turns out that being able to give several solutions fast and being reliable is way more important than coding on your free time.

          I’m just sorry that they can’t actually be good at their job by investing their work hours into work/training/testing, it is what it is. Yeah there’s people with disabilities that need to invest more than the usual programmer to be good at their job, but that’s how it is and expecting everyone is the same is pathetic.

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        I’m very good at IT and I can assure you that when the clock hits the time, my laptop gets folded and I switch the screens to my games, where I pay no mind to work anymore. I’m a man.

        Fuck off with that attitude.

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        It’s clear you have never met a woman…

        Source: a woman who beat every other male in every grade in my comp sci degree and is top of the class.

        Also has a life because WOMEN CAN MULTITASK APPARENTLY.

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    Solicitation at my door.

    1. I have a sign, on my door, that says “no solicitors.”
    2. By law, all solicitors must have a solicitation license from the county on their person. It’s a photo ID issued by the county. None of them do.
    3. I work from home with a handicapped wife. Do not bother me.

    I give them one chance to go away. If they press it, I demand to see their license, which “Oh it’s in the truck” or “it’s in the office” or “I am not soliciting, I am giving you a FREE ESTIMATE…” I call the cops. Fuck em. Non-emergency number, I state a description of a suspicious man who refused to show me a solicitation license, and kept asking me to open my door. I describe the direction they are going with dates, streets, and times.

    A few get nabbed. Some of these guys are known to the police because they are possibly casing your house and they have a ton of camera evidence of them peeping in windows and gates.

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      Non-American here.

      I have lived in three different countries and solicitors are extremely rare. And in the few cases one ringed my door it was for charity or school kids collecting donations for some summer trip (not sure if this is called soliciting or not).

      Is that bad in America that you need to put a sign at your door? How frequent they visit?

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        Depends massively on where you are. Out in a really rural area, you’ll probably get one a year tops. Middle class suburbia, but not a gated community? Probably substantially more, like 1+ a week.

        I’m in the suburbs but up a couple of hills so I generally get fewer than 1 a month (that I know of. I have my doorbell disconnected and live with others so it’s possible I get more and just don’t know about it)

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          I think it depends on where you live. In my case, I see about 4-5 a week on my security cameras, but only a few a year ignore the sign. On nextdoor dot com, it’s discussed and video camera footage is shared, so we know which neighborhoods are targeted. Mine is because of the aging population of upper middle income folks.

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        These people saying one a week must be living in hell, but they’re definitely outliers. I’ve lived in the same spot for three years here in Seattle without ever having a solicitor come to my door.

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      I’m the same. Spam caller? Just hang up. Someone cuts me up in traffic? I’ll be upset but not gonna waste any time on the ass who did it. People with dumb ideas? Tell them what you think but close the conversation or walk away.

      I remember in a tech shop someone ranting after being asked for their email address when paying. Kept a few of us in the queue waiting and what did he win from it?? Did he really feel good after shouting at shop staff?

      Can’t see any win from being rude to anyone. Just live and let live man.

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        It’s not on other customers if a shop has you waiting. It’s on the shop for making it needlessly complex. It’s like blaming someone who is reading out their coupon numbers: they are the user. Not the dev team. Take your complaint to the right people who can make the difference to the business model. Long queues isn’t the customer’s fault. It’s on how that business is managed. you could hold your breath if you ever think your happiness is a prerogative by another customer’s responsibility.

        And while I agree about the energy thing with scammers, I do not agree with calling it a waste of time if someone else is going to stand up to it.

        Scammers take advantage of the vulnerable elderly. So good on the ones who slow them down. No need to minimize their effort by calling it a waste of time. Like you said : live and let live.

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    Bigots. I ain’t bothering to be polite about calling out your racist/sexist/homo/transphobic shit and correcting your shit-brained thinking. If you’re a bigot, you’re a piece of shit and will be treated as such.

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    Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and generally anyone who wants to convert me to their fucked up religion when they knock on my door. Why should I be civil when they bother me at my house on my time off to dictate what I should believe in? If I’m interested I’d go to them and not the other way around.

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      Their tactics are adapting: those motherfuckers started showing up at my house and they bring KIDS to ring the doorbell and give the elevator pitch. I can’t in good conscience tell a groomed/brainwashed child to eat my entire ass and I can’t even really be rude to the women standing behind them because they’ll just be like, “see how rude and awful nonbelievers are?”

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      If a JW approaches, just politely tell them you’re an apostate, and they’ll leave you alone.

      Those people are genuinely brain washed into believing they are going save your life if they convert you.

      If you tell them you’re an apostate, you’re telling them you’re ex JW, and you’ve been exiled, so they’ll turn around and refuse to talk to you. I say be polite because they’re just humans trying to “save your life”

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        The apostate thing won’t always work. It requires a couple of steps. The terminology you want to use is to say “I’m DF’d” or “I’m disfellowshipped”. That means they are not actually allowed to talk to you. They won’t even say okay, they just leave. Works 100% of the time IME.

        Source: I’m disfellowshipped.

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        It sounds like it would work, im unshure if thats the safest or least safe way of convincing them to leave you alone. depends on if they think your a lost cause, a satan warshipper or re saveable

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        I’ve done that actually. It’s only been 2 months since that encounter but here’s hoping.

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      It’s always fun to answer the door to JW when you’re a goth. They’re already in a state of panic before you’ve opened your mouth.

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        One of my prouder moments when I was younger and thinner, was answering the door for some JW’s, while naked and handcuffed to my girlfriend.

        They were working their way through our apartment complex, so we came up with a stupid plan.

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      I used to answer the door naked when I lived in a town where that was not a crime. Some of them try to lock eyes and pretend it’s not happening, some just run. Either way, I was amused.

      You have to trespass well onto private property to get to my house now and it’s just to far a walk so I don’t get any JWs anymore.

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      I used to make sport of proselytizers, seeing how long I could string them along, but these days if someone hops my 12 foot fuck-off privacy fence and walks the 100 yards down my driveway past the no trespassing signs I will likely have already called the cops by the time they reach my door. So they would be met with hostility.

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    Antimaskers, antivaxxers, “stop the steal” assholes, homophobes/terfs/bigots in general. If your ideas injure and kill others, I am going to treat you like someone that spreads ideas that injure and kill others not as someone to be debated in a “civil” manner.

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    The charity telemarketers (it’s actually just one particular dude, lile 50% of the time) that call me once or twice a week asking for donations to one of a dozen different charity organization. That’s apparently what I get for donating like $50 to a Firefighters’ charity 4 years ago.

    Charity gets you punished, folks.

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      That’s a bit harsh. They’re working for peanuts in a call centre, they did not make the decision to harass you. Just politely tell them to take you off their calling list and put the phone down.

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          No, it’s fair enough. I usually try to give them some kind of reassurance that I don’t hate them, I hate their bosses. Just because it must be an absolutely miserable job and they could probably do with a kind word. But sometimes, it’s hard to do that and putting the phone down is better than berating them!

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          Sure. That’s how it works. People do crappy jobs because they like doing crappy jobs. They could choose any job in the world to keep a roof over their heads. But being paid badly to get shouted at a lot is just what turns them on.

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          Tech support scammers are in the same psycological position as them and that is more complex than just wanting to be a bad person. Corruption by desperation and greed.

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      There’s a great documentary on HBO called Telemarketers that talks about this business model and how it’s essentially a fraud. And they address how if someone ever donates they’re put on a list of chumps to call back forever

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    The whole telemarketer / debt collector thing is one of the top reasons why I wouldn’t want to move away from the Pixel series of phones. The Call Screen feature just automatically declines their calls for me.

    Funnily enough, if you bring up the screen while its active, there’s an option something along the lines of “Do not call back” (or maybe its the Report as Spam button) that gives them a very aggressive but “nice” way of telling them to kick rocks, and to remove my number from their list.

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      Call Screen is legitimately my favorite thing about my pixel, having switched from an Edge about a year ago.

      My only wish is that I could change the script on it. At one point I thought it’d be hilarious to just pipe it to chatGPT and let them talk to each other.

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      By automatically declines, you mean you have the assistant answer, then you select your response from that screen, right? It annoys me that I even have to screen the call at all, but I guess it’s better than what you get on most phones.

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        No, it will do so automatically - could just be the setting configuration I have, but I don’t have to actually bring it up. Even if I’m using my phone when the call comes in, I’ll get a notification that says “Screening unknown call” and it’ll decline on its own. If I click the notification it brings up the active call screen dialog and I can watch it in real time / select the options myself if I want to.

        I’m not sure why yours isn’t doing so automatically, perhaps double check your settings in the phone app? I can’t remember if I had to explicitly flip the “automatic” setting in there originally.

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    Homophobic people. Don’t care if its your religion, or if im called religious phobic (which is a stupid term).

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    I like to ask the phone scammers if their moms are proud of them. I had one a few days ago who got so pissed off by that question that he invited me to suck his dick and then called me an asshole before hanging up, lol. Damn, social security agent Robert, you angry.

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      I fucked with a phone scammer so bad once that he kept calling me for two weeks to abuse me. I answered every call with, “You mad, bro?” He was fucking infuriated.

      Three years later I’m still waiting for Ramal to pool together all his rupees and fly over here and kill me like he promised.

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        Child abusers are worse but are the same monster as animal abusers. Its because kids are our own species and more intelegent. the former and ladder implies things hard to put in words. Id say same kind of auful.

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        It’s crazy how many people claim to love animals yet regularly eat meat.

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          I’m guilty of this myself. Somehow I’m OK with eating meat but I can’t stand seeing any animal suffering.

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    Ditto on all telemarketers/robo calls. Useful tip: if you know its a robo/marketer/scam answer the phone with “Thank you for calling, can I get your last name first and your order number?” then progressively and aggressively keep asking for personal details of them and their order.