I mean for a religious person everything should be god’s plan, right?
No, no, only the good parts.
Not good, just the convenient parts.
That is logical. Practically, though, this is used for justification of selected events. If a person confronts with something he doesn’t like, e. g. bugs in his home, he will actively try to change it.
Doesn’t mean they have to be passive. They could say God did this to provoke me to do something against this.
I mean it’s similar to the question why god allows all this suffering and evil in the world. I think the common answer is to test us and to give us the opportunity to do good or something like that.
That is convenient. This way you can explain anything you like. I think, Sam Harris said “it’s like playing table tennis without a net”.
That’s the point of religion. Providing some kind of psychological comfort by giving answers to questions we can’t answer.
But we can answer the question of why god allows bad things to happen: god isn’t real.
Which god we talking here? Not the muslim or christian ones for sure.
The true American religion. The Church of Capitalism.
America has a Christian Nationalist problem.
America has an individualism problem and well fuck me running if Christians just happen to be the absolute worst when it comes to the rights of others being of no consequence.
This is something that hit me like a ton of bricks after living abroad for a bit. It definitely made me think a lot about how much more pleasant things are when people are at least marginally considerate of others, and just how little some people seem to do it in the US.
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Oh I’m aware it always has. I remember learning in grade school, about the Puritans coming to America and being told it was a good thing….
(Spoiler: it wasn’t)
But it’s getting worse every day.
Puritans coming to America and being told it was a good thing….
I mean, there’s a world in which protestant refugees of the Thirty Years War don’t just show up and start slaughtering native peoples.
In fact, quite a few early settler colonies ended up “Going Native” and integrating with local tribes, rather than clinging to European identity and loyalty.
But the promise of a New World Gold Rush invited all the wrong kinds of migrants. Add in the Transatlantic slave trade, and you had a thoughtfully toxic stew of feudal politics layered atop capitalist expansion.
TIL one in three Americans suffer severe mental health disorders.
Unfun fact! Carter tried to establish community mental health care centers across America, but Reagan immediately undid it.
Same thing for solar panels. When carter left, he installed the first solar panel on the white house and said ‘this will either mark a new beginning or a path untaken’. Reagan took it down.
Now China is kicking everyone’s ass in solar panels. And Trump hates renewables so much that he wants to shut down a windfarm in New England that is almost finished, had already cost a lot of money, would employ thousands, and provide a fuckload of cheap electricity to a lot of people.
Sounds about right.
At least one in three. Theres some in the democratic party and independents as well. Its probably at least half.
I’ve heard that some people believe trump is indeed god’s plan, to bring an end to the US
Unhappy, simple-minded people cling to prophecy of change, children’s fairy tales of a day when everything will be better and some paternal figure will protect them and give them all the presents they ever wanted.
It’s not a coincidence that education and exposure to diverse cultures and beliefs tends to make for a less religious population and why religion is shrinking in larger cities and more connected locations around the world.
The problem is that these people are basically armed serfs, in indentured servitude to their ideological leaders, they are pure political capital if you can harness them and holy shit have we seen that plan bear fruit.
Pathetic fake fucking Christians
Pathetic fucking Christians is more like it.
Its a fucking death cult.
A blood death cult that got its start with child sacrifices…
But god is good…lol
Its insane to me that people can’t see this. Sure, it has over a thousand years of good PR, but the evil shit isn’t hidden. Its all in the bible.
The Allegory of the Cave suites nicely with religious beliefs.
“Keep watching the shadows. There is nothing but the shadows. If someone says anything different they are wrong and you are correct. Feels good to be correct. Be correct with us.”
Being incorrect about things on a consistent and constant basis can be disheartening if you’re insecure. They are wrong about so many things all the time that it’s a nice change of pace to be right. Even if that means accepting “Noble Lies”.
MAGA or Christianity?
Christianity. Its all about the end of the world.
Would be nice. But it’s more like a pedo cult.
God’s plan also includes deadly plagues, global floods, and turning people into pillars of salt.
Capitalists all raise an eyebrow at the idea of all that free salt.
That’s why we must conquer heaven and kill god before his cancerous existence spreads any further.
Also hell too, but they are not the main enemy. Heaven and God are. They are the real monsters.
Daily reminfer that 33% of the US is crazy, and the majority hate Trump.
Aparently they didnt hate him enough to vote against him.
They did.
The US is not a democracy
The winning candidate in the 2024 election was “none”
“Didn’t Vote” could as easily be “Any/All” as “None”. Also discounts the voters who were legally disenfranchised or otherwise discouraged from participating.
Hence “not a democracy”. Voters don’t pick their politicians. Politicians pick their voters.
No it was “I don’t care, just take whoever the others want”.
A Christian (or, really, anyone who believes in predestination) thinking “X is Part of God’s Plan” is perfectly consistent with their understanding of the world.
It’s the Christians who don’t believe this who are being irrational
Those Christians would be inconsistent, but all Christians are irrational by definition.
Rationality is predicated on inputs and outputs. If you’re surrounded by second and third hand accounts of divine mysteries, it isn’t irrational to accept them as true absent some more compelling data. At least, no more irrational than believing in dinosaurs or the Big Bang Theory, without ever actually having seen a fossil or learned about the significance of background radiation.
A third of Americans are delusional
Imagine how stupid the average person is and now realize that half of them are dumber than that.
That’s a global percentage. I’m pretty sure that the United States is exclusively populated by the lower 15%
I’m a simple man. I see a Carlin quote, I upvote.
But that’s not how averages work. We’d really be imagining the median person.
About one third of Americans are bringing the average stupidity way, way down.
And imagine a law allowing them to buy as many weapons as they want.
Now imagine each one of them is constantly plugged into a 24/7 propaganda machine designed to be entertaining and foster a sense of community and emotional validation while pushing the will of corporations and authoritarian leaders.
Have these people read the part in the Bible that talks about the Antichrist??
Most of them can’t read.
If those people could read they would be very upset.
It’s part of a concept of a plan. Great flood, plagues of Egypt, …
well, duh?
if you believe in God and you believe God has a plan, then this is part of that plan
how many Christians don’t believe God has a plan?
it was God’s plan for Charlie Kirkkk to die publicly. it was God’s plan for all those school children to die. it is God’s plan to abuse and murder non-whites in the US. it is God’s plan to have the wealthy and powerful abuse young women and for the masses to protect them
Yeah this just says 1/3 of US Americans truly believe in God.
Religion should be added to the DSM as a dangerous disorder.
Time for a rev bump to DSM-6.66
So…God wants to punish America?
finally a rational decision
Isn’t everything that happens a part of God’s plan? I do not understand the thought process of most Christians.
Everything they agree with is part of God’s plan. Everything they don’t is the work of the devil. When you can control what is “seen” as God’s plan, you can control the population. And anyone who disagrees is under the influence of the devil and an enemy. Basic cult mentality.
I love how they overlook that anything the Devil does is, by definition, part of God’s plan. Evil to exist is what God wants. lol
That sounds like kindergarten theology. I am pretty sure the common theological premise is that by definition, everything is Gods plan.
